December Strikes

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  1. Wat

    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    The issue isn't taxing 'high earners' on £1m or whatever. The issue is they don't want to tax wealth. That's where the real money is.
     
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    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

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    It could be a Duck billed Platypus.
     
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    I was on about the Tory Party, but if the cap fits eh.
     
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    The correct answer is we’re the anti growth coalition.
     
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    We're all worse off by virtue of circumstances beyond our control.

    Most of it is beyond our government's control.

    Where is it written or in the natural order of things that none of us should take a hit if things take a turn for the worse?

    I'm taking a hit. I adjust accordingly.

    So should everyone else, rather than being too selfish so as to expect a wage in accordance with inflation.

    Who ever said that life should be easy? Who said we should always expect a rise in living standards?

    Time to knuckle down. Pull together. Obviously without this lot in charge cos everything went to pot yonks ago.

    It's really a start again job.

    Striking by all and sundry gets us nowhere.
     
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    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

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    Is this a parody/satire?
     
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  8. Gegenpresser

    Gegenpresser Well-Known Member

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    It's a post on a website.
     
  9. Tyk

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    Its just another inevitable, inexorable consequence of the choices we made to lockdown during the pandemic.

    Things will get just as bad as they were during the winter of discontent, the only difference being that the binmen aren't on strike - yet - so there's not the visible signs of total Governmental dysfunction on every street corner like there was then.
     
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    I imagine it’s easy to knuckle down and pull together and accept lower than inflation pay rises if your employer isn’t making massive profits off the back of your hard work and hardship.
     
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    What if they aren't? What if they're a small time local employer, who kept paying them full whack through the pandemic, despite losing out themselves?

    What if they're determined never to lay anyone off, no matter what? Even if they lose out themselves? Because these employees are your responsibility, you look them in the eye each morning, you know we're all in it together?

    And have been for 20 years or more?

    Where we all know that there's trouble getting a decent wage on the doorstep like they continue to get?

    Employers aren't all the same. And the hardship doesn't always arise from just turning up and taking home your wage as an employee.

    Employee - if you want you can move on.

    I can't. I have to make it continue to work. If it doesn't I get saddled with crippling debt. And a ruined retirement.

    Try running a local business and then pay them above inflation wages this year and next.
     
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    Sorry, I just can't tell if you're being serious when you call people selfish for wanting a rise in line with inflation.
     
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    I blame Corbyn.
     
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    Want?

    Everyone would want a 100% rise. We all want as much as we can possibly get in a world ideal for us.

    I'd be being selfish if I wanted a rise in inflation when others without the same kind of union leverage couldn't get one too.

    When it's obvious we all need to tighten our belts for a while, and where massive wage rises for all will end up being counterproductive.
     
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    Can't argue with that mate.

    Otherwise Gally bans me.
     
  16. man

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    Substitute "demand" for "want."

    I don't think anyone is selfish for demanding a pay rise in line with inflation, which in effect isn't even a pay rise.
     
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    You think that my employees should "demand" a 14% pay rise this week, when there's been no increase in income for the firm and a massive increase in expenditure on everything e.g heat/light, insurance, rent, office supplies ... friggin everything.....?

    Thankfully they aren't doing such thing.
     
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    Small businesses are going to have to offer large pay increases soon given the fact that there are more unfilled vacancies than ever. Hundreds of thousands of people no longer in the workforce. Sooner or later people will realise that the best way to get more money is to leave a shitty employer who sustains their business by underpaying their labour.

    As far as the public sector goes, wage rises have been below inflation for years. Perhaps if wages had actually grown properly over the past decade people wouldn't need to ask for such a large increases now. Full support for the striking workers.
     
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    Some grim views on here, eh.
     
  20. Stephen Dawson

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    I don't want a 14 per cent pay rise because Im not selfish. Can see past the nose on my face and don't want to be on dole in six months because my employers can't afford my wages.
     
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