December Strikes

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  1. Marc

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    Totally get that. What about harping on about Tory policy today, that’s screwing people over right now. And their kids, and their grandkids? Is that a fair thing to ‘harp on about’?
     
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    The Tories are screwing us all over, right now, every day. It's got nothing to do with yesteryear. All yesteryear shows us that what we are going through now is intrinsically linked to Tory ideology. They have history in screwing people like you and just about everyone on this board, me included.
     
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    It won’t change a thing fella . I taught in FE when labour brought the full time vocational courses out to address the skills shortage. It’s been regurgitated numerous times and every time it’s failed . Barnsley college used to be fantastic until these courses we brought in . Total waste of time , bums on seats and huge profits for colleges . Pathetic and I can guarantee labour will reintroduce it when they get their sorry arses in . mo party truly understands how education should work
     
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    What the fek are you on about? Seriously
     
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    Chortle
     
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    Looking after our children…

     
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    Some seriously delusional, selfish and sickening views on this thread. Several posters clearly only concerned with their own little existence.
    Across the board public sector pay has been suppressed for as long as I can remember, coinciding with poorer working conditions and staff cuts.
    Asking for a rise in line with inflation is not unreasonable, although in reality we all know that it won't be achieved.
    I'm retiring in 6 months with an OK pension, that they tried to pinch, but I'll stand alongside any union trying to get the best for their workers from this shitshow of a government.
     
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    I bet everyone on a soap box drives.
     
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    And your point?
     
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    My boss has awarded himself an 8% pay increase but rejected ours which has been frozen for years. The guy is on 400k+ a year.

    We're all in it together, though. Can't be striking, oh no...
     
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    You don't.
     
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    I use trains, I'm on one now.

    It says a lot that you can't imagine people having views which aren't informed entirely by self-interest.
     
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    Yes, because our public transport is so rubbish (Profit before service) I can't even get to where my workplace is (5 miles) without travelling around for 2 and a half hours and 3 buses. And that's one way.

    You've even complained about it before regarding running times if I recall about trains.

    That's the management of these companies not the workers.

    Had people supported the workers you might not be restricted to what you can travel on.

    Shareholder profits and profits must be maintained. At the detriment of the service and it's workers.

    I can't see how you fail to find that conclusion
     
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    I can't believe people can't see there will be massive unemployment after everyone has their rise. I only think about myself though.
     
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    If someone works as an employee of a small business that has seen a reduction in turnover in the last 12 months is it fair to demand an inflation - matching pay rise from that employer?
    Seems like a quick way of putting their employer out of business to me - then who wins?
     
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    BBS Socialist Alliance Committee.
     
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    Of course it's fair. The worker is selling their time, it's their prerogative to ask for an inflation based rise and then look elsewhere if they don't get it.

    Funny how some people are happy for businesses to be capitalistic but when workers apply the same principles suddenly it's unfair, and we need to adopt a quasi-socialist "all in it together" approach for the good of business owners.
     
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    If I was working for a small business iwner who was a good employer and struggling to a similar degree to me I'd like to think I would be restrained about my pay demands.
    If I was working for a large national, multi national company declaring **** tons of profits I'd like to think they were doing a damn site mire for the welfare of their workers than squirreling it into offshore tax havens or increased dividends.
    Simples.
     
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    Not to say it’s not true information…. But no teachers that I know are on strike yet….
     
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    Redundancies will happen if people don't get their rise. You obviously don't know the basis of economics. If people can't afford to buy things, then these business will fail, because people stop spending money. Inflation means all prices are going up, it doesn't mean that these businesses make less money. Inflation is a measure of pricing, so if they don't pay inflationary increases in wages they in turn make more profit, because fundamentally they are charging the customer for increased costs across the board, including salaries.

    Only failing businesses get stiffed by high inflation.
     
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