These strikes....

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  1. Brush

    Brush Well-Known Member

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    The unions are THE most democratic institutions in the UK. They are forced to be so by relentless Tory anti-union legislation, despite which we getting all these strikes. If only our government was elected by such democratic principles, we would NEVER have a Tory Government, especially one with a "mandate" (don't make me laugh) to royally f-up the country like this one has.
     
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    It’s the same as I said in a earlier thread!
    I would love to know what the actual Nhs employed nurses think about the wages agency nurses receive. It must add insult to injury that the person next to you is earning more than 3/4 times more. I’ve worked on both sides in the construction industry and the disparity between on the books and agency as never been more than a £5 per hour .
     
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    My GP has referred me for a X ray a few times.
     
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    It’s probably unfortunately true that this Gov would cave in to the Rail workers if they went on indefinite strike and ground the country to a standstill but if the NHS workers did the same they wouldn’t bat an eyelid as the bodies piled up , they didn’t during Covid , probably have a few coke fuelled parties at No 10 and assorted grace and favour houses
     
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    Might have to drop them a message then see if they will do that for me.
     
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    Agency staff in 19/20 cost the NHS £6bn and thru make approximately £46 per hour more than an NHS nurse.

    More figures here
     
  7. mick woodhouse

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    Christ , I’m retraining !!
    I have seen jobs on indeed and similar site stating rates of £1800 a week :(
     
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    I'll say it again.

    The top 1% of people in the UK have more wealth than 69% of the population.

    A progressive annual wealth tax of just 1% on 1% of the population would raise between £70bn and £130bn a year.

    There's loads of money in this country, it's just not where it should be.
     
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  9. Tek

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    Good job wasn't planning on gigging for a couple of months. Dr said it could be several weeks before I would be able to play the violin again. I said ..fantastic 'cos I couldn't play one before :D ( The old ones are the best:rolleyes:). On a serious 'note' really pissed I can't do any keyboard playing or recording like we had planned over the Jan-Feb quiet time.
     
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    The public are already behind them it's the Govt, Health minister and Sunak that need informi..... Oh! Hang on, they already know all that.:mad:
     
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    Not wrong but we should not have to rely on people ' willing to do the role,' i.e. work for a salary that is not commensurate with skill levels, qualifications and responsibilities. You are correct that staff shortages have been badly impacted more by the visa situation than Brexit and many were, can and should come, like you say, from countries outside the EU. Also I know personally two people - former NHS - who now live and work in Australia who say the salary, life work balance etc is far superior to UK and would not consider returning. Retention is as big an issue as recruitment if all these additional students newly qualified nurses and clinicians fly the coup as soon as any contractual obligations end.
     
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    I said that AND no redundancy for them. Want a pay rise they get one no trouble.
     
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    I think quite a few will find themselves redundant after the next GE!!;)
     
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    Yeah support for trains strikes has dropped and more staff are happy with the deal. He's forgotten his staff were kept in work to run trains at a loss for two years when people didn't use them.
     
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    What is a PCT building?
     
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    I know you’re quoting this source but I just don’t believe an agency staff member was being paid £46 an hour more than a regular nurse.

    The figures just don’t stack up the same article states £100k per nurse per year that equates to just over £48 on a 40 hour week so would mean the NHS Nurse was on £2 ph.
    Bear in mind as well the agency will take a huge cut out of that £100k too.
     
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    Correction. The government paid tax payer money to private train firms during Covid to ensure they kept the same profit margins as before Covid.

    Those companies then went on to pay shareholder dividends worth £38m.

    These companies are in some cases owned by Italian, Dutch and Chinese governments.

    Just a colossal waste of taxpayer money compared to had it been run for the taxpayer in the first place.
     
  18. mick woodhouse

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    I’ve a know of a nurse that gets around £300/£400 per shift darn sarf !
     
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    I'd ring 111 might take a while to get through, but easier than A&E & they will be able to book you an X-ray, if they think you need one.
     
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    Hopefully lol,but it's not the same redundancy package as us mere mortals.
     

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