Any experts on car scratches/chips etc?

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  1. Thrappo Tyke

    Thrappo Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Other half is looking at a second hand Kia Sportage 2 (2018 plate, 19k miles, little over £16k), but noticed a few chips/odd scratch and is now massively put off

    Wondering if anyone has gone through similar and how much it might end up costing?

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    If she is getting it from a dealer she should be able to get them to fix those before she collects it. If not Chips Away should be able to sort it but again even if a private sale I’d expect that fixed before I took it away. Unless it’s under market value I’d be inclined to walk away unless the seller fixes it.
    I’ve had similar scratches fixed for around £200 to £300 in the past but send the pics to chips away and they will give you a quote
     
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    Appreciate the response.

    The price is a fair bit below others we've seen (given the mileage)

    It's from Carshop but they reckon it's a case of buying as seen.

    Another dealer (Evans Halshaw) had the same car (33k miles rather than 19k) and there was a similar issue with theirs (scratch on the front). They did say they'd try and sort it beforehand but the difference is mileage is quite significant for a car the same age

    I've contacted chipsaway with the pictures so will see what they say[/QUOTE]
     
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    If it's a dealer. I'd Echo what Farnham says. Ask dealer to do it then you'll consider buying it. They'll in my experience of a similar issue. not let you walk away if that's all the damage on show. Cost em next to nowt. Either in house or partner.
    If it's a private seller maybe the price reflects the condition and you may have to haggle if they think they've taken into account the repair cost. As you say its below market value. And if it is a private dealer. At that sort of money I'd want an expert to give it the once over. May cost a few quid but worth it.
     
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    Get your quote and see if they'll do a deal, but thing with Carshop is, they're quite hard nosed, cos they know there's always someone else who knows nowt about cars coming along the next day that'll buy it, particularly if it appears underpriced
    No offence, but I wouldnt set foot in Carshop.
     
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    Depends on what the dealer has across the car and at the moment it is a sellers market as decent cars are very hard to come across at a decent price.
    Typically a dealership will be getting charged between £120-£180 per panel.
     
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    Would avoid Evans Halshaw even more than Carshop
     
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    Just seen your response to Farnham re Carshop. Some dealerships have no movement on sales as they competitively price. But may look at offering you a little bit more on your part exchange. If you have one.
    Re exileds comment. It really is difficult to give an 100% honest opinion. I once went to Evan's Halshaw in Sheffield and got a lot more joy and better treat at the Rotherham branch.
    Got this car I have now from Carshop under its previous name Car people. Very difficult to haggle with but as in your case. A lot cheaper for similar at other dealers.
    May be a case of getting the price from chips away. May cost you a few quid. But if the savings on the purchase far outweigh those costs. It's an easy decision for me.
    Don't ask me about cars mechanicaly mind. I allus try get someone from the trade to go with me. First car I looked at, looked a bargain. Mate took boot carpet up. Saw straight through the bodywork. Took seat covers off, holes in the back rests lol.
    Bag o' S41T :)
     
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    Would avoid Evans Halshaw even more than Carshop[/QUOTE]

    I can echo that! Few years ago spent a eternity to try to buy the Wife a car from them. Tried to sell me all sorts of insurance, kept pushing finance despite me saying I didn't want it. Did what must have been a 1000 point check on the car we were part exchanging. Then the car we were buying had some damage on the interior. Spent over a week chasing them for updates and in the end gave up.
    Awful experience.
     
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    You can try a company called Revive as well, same as Chips Away but in my experience slightly cheaper as they do mainly garages etc
     
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    I can echo that! Few years ago spent a eternity to try to buy the Wife a car from them. Tried to sell me all sorts of insurance, kept pushing finance despite me saying I didn't want it. Did what must have been a 1000 point check on the car we were part exchanging. Then the car we were buying had some damage on the interior. Spent over a week chasing them for updates and in the end gave up.
    Awful experience.[/QUOTE]
    Nationally their reputation precedes them as an outfit who are all fluff and glitz for the sale but are very difficult to get to remedy works required.
     
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    I own a Bodyshop. Been in the trade since '86 and the guy who works for me since '78. Not touting for business here just offering advice. If they won't sort it properly through their Bodyshop get the price reduced and get it fixed yourself. Don't use chips away or any other 'smart repairers'. Believe it or not, that's actually out of their skillset and the repairs will be visible and won't last.
     
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    I made the mistake of buying my current car from these. All looked fine, but once I’d had it washed the first time I found a bunch of scratches on the roof - the must have covered it with t-cut? Dunno whether to try and see if they can be buffed out or whether I’d need it respraying, any advice on scratches??!?
     
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    Haven't washed mine since the hosepipe ban in the summer. The dirt hides all the scratches. I think scratches are often a mind thing. You know they are there and worry about the appearance but I doubt if anybody else would notice. I've been to France and the cars are scratched and dinged to buggery and no one seems to care, London seems the same. Just knock some cash off and keep the savings.
     
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    Major generalisation there m8.
    That would be well within the remit of a decent smart repairer and should be invisible as well.
    Unfortunately though the generalisation holds some merit due to the flooding of the market at turn of the century with people going on 3 day courses and offering £30 a corner did significant damage to the industry.
    That said though for the last 10 years most have either disappeared or moved on to whole panels.
    Chips away as an example very few are mobile now with 2/3 of their network now unit based and not actually doing smart repairs.
     
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    Standard rule of thumb on scratches is if you lick your thumb and put on scratch if it disappears it will buff out.
    To be 100% sure you should get the paint depth measured first, any one decent offering these services should have a gauge.
    Alternatively your dealership would have used a temporary wax/detail Polish which will hide minor scratches etc, you could just apply a Sealant as part of the washing process. It won’t remove them but will hide them and lasts longer than a wax and is much cheaper than paying someone to machine out.
     
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    Exactly. I can't see the fascination with forking out a fortune to fix a scratch. I's a tin box that gets you from A to B.
     
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    Yep this is me. My current car was immaculate inside and out when I bought it, but for one scratch on the rear bumper a few inches long. Obviously just a result of something being loaded into the boot.
    Managed to get a further £150 off the price. Never bothered to have anything done about it.
     
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    My car is 10 years old from new. Covered in dints and scratches now mainly from careless people in shopping mall supermarket car parks and one self inflicted deep scratch/gouge on the LH front wing where I scraped along a partly concealed metal rod but it is mechanically sound.

    Not worth repairing once it was over 6 years old really. Only got 60k miles on the clock.Many cars round here look like they survived the battle of the Somme as repairs are exhorbitant. Only the increasing number of lease cars seem to look like new. A couple of people we know had left their cars out when we had a major hailstorm with hail like golf balls. One needed a whole new bodyshell on his year old car as it looked dimpled like a golf ball and cracked his windscreen and rear windows (not to mention a number of solar panels on his house roof)
     
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    Would avoid Evans Halshaw even more than Carshop[/QUOTE]
    When my brother was learning to drive, Evans Halshaw had a car he liked at one of their other depots. Called them up, asked for detains about the condition of the car. They said the body was was in pristine condition, and said for £100, they'd bring it to Wakefield and give him first refusal on it. Paid the money, got the call to go look at the car, and there wasn't a single panel on it which didn't have a dent or scratch. Even worse, the roof had chewing gum stuck to it, and it had clearly been there a while.

    We requested the money back as it wasn't as described, and initially they refused, but after some persistence, they refunded the deposit.

    I once rang them about viewing a car, and they said it hadn't been prepared yet, and to call back the morning after. I called the following morning at opening time and they'd sold it.
     
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