An evening with Barnsley FC tonight

Thowt you meant Managing Director then for a mimute.

 

Bang out of order

 

Mercifully you don’t speak for us all. I’m no fan of the ownership as it was and the owners remain broadly the same. We have a new board and different approach though.

If you can’t see a change this season then fair enough. We sold the ones who had to be to stay afloat and have kept a nucleus of essential retainees. We sold nobody we wanted to keep last month.

If you are one of the ‘spend some money’ brigade as though that is the answer to all our prayers, then there’s no point discussing with you.

 

Wow that was exciting, a good honest thread, with a few heated posts, its how it is in real life we all see things differently, Jay, i dont know the history but cum on buddy that was harsh. C,O,Y,R,

 

Agree 100%. We've always been a selling club if we're going to be honest and in the modern game with the riches on offer higher up the food chain that's going to be even more the case. I can't defend what Conway and Co did and detest the bloke as much as anyone. However, I'd like to think that the new set up should be cut a bit of slack (maybe I'm a gullible old sod, time will tell). We're in a really poor position financially but money has been invested just to keep us afloat and the appointment of Duff has been like a breath of fresh air. I just don't get why there's such apathy at the moment that seems to have got worse as the season has progressed. There actually seemed to be a bit of optimism in the early part of the season.
I just wish the fanbase would show some backing for Duff and these lads. They've done really well to be in and around the top 6 with the mess we started with and the lack of budget. Reckon it'll be touch and go if we make the play offs but just get behind them and see where it takes us.

 

Quite so. We must remain on our knees and be grateful for what we've got.

 

Well then that sums up the situation for the vast majority of the club's history Orsen because there's been very few occasions where things are different in terms of money spent to now.

 

He is visually impaired to a high degree.
Luckily I have the benefit of hearing aids. Which i can turn off lol.
I was the one who brought up the loyalty points issue.
Mi mate brought up the Port vale non use of subs. The only question I'd ask on that one is. Is it a requirement or necessary to fill the bench in that competition. (If so, fine, if not, don't bench em ) The fact one or two seniors were, upset the fans.

 

I haven't got the impression the majority of Premier league clubs are winning the league as their number 1 aim. Slightly rose tinted glasses there over Spurs, they got within a whisker of actually winning silverware and decided to sack the manager. It's just as much about money, haven't you heard Gary Neville moan on about how tatty Old Trafford is looking?
It's easy to alienate fans, it's harder to win them back. A load of gimmicks won't achieve that. Playing winning football is the start, having a period of stability with playing staff, coaches. And please stop messing with the walkout music, standing up and clapping to Timerider as they teams come out evokes all the memories and is ours, no other club has it. You need continuity and change, no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I'm really hopeful we can get to Wembley this year, would love to celebrate getting back to the Championship with my kids. And hopefully to keep Duff, not sell/ let our entire defence leave and make a real attempt to 're establish ourselves as a championship club. And then I think the atmosphere will come back.

 

one of the worst comments i have ever read on this forum.

 

Jay's one of my favourite posters during the day but later, in the evening, the "demons" often kick in...

 

Exactly. No one else thinks that @dreamboy3000, even if they may disagree with you.

 

Don’t bother wasting it then.

[QUOTE ="Stephen Dawson, post: 3065844, member: 121826"] I love Spurs but I also love the Premier League for it's drive and ambition. [/QUOTE]
And there we go.

I really don’t think this club is for you.

When I felt you were advocating the club spending a load of money it hasn’t got I thought you were a little delusional. Then you said Spurs have a genuine target of winning the premier league and confirmed it…

Also, you are Darren Gough and I claim my £5. Are your Tory party membership subs due?

 

I think it is about being realistic.

I'm guessing the likes of Harrogate, Port Vale, Leyton Orient, Mansfield etc etc might as well shut up shop if they're not aiming for the premier league, then?

We will always be a team that bounces between the tiers and maybe occasionally hit the top flight, but to knock the owners when tonnes of club are haemmorhaging cash to get to the promised land is a bit stupid.

 

That is exactly how it is, and one cannot underestimate the damage Conway and co did to alienate the hardcore fanbase. We said it at the time, that it will be a long way back.

 

Ive seen a lot worse

 

Last season was traumatic - worse then our last relegation - even managed to beat Sheff Utd and were at least competing - last season was just like watching someone who's been knocked out getting stamped on every week. For many people its just hard to get over the state we were in - seeing a lack of effort and knowing before you start that you're going to witness another sch-lacking kind of puts you off. We've had so many false dawns and promises and regardless of what anyone says our quality players seem to stay for shorter and shorter periods of time and we either get terrible managers who need sacking or good managers who leave at the first opportunity - its hardly going to engendered wild enthusiasm - it seems to me we are in a long term managed decline, we can't afford to keep players or managerd good enough to get us and sustain us in the championship, we can't afford to update in any significant way a badly dated ground, we will be solid League one in the medium term, but probably will end up looking down rather then up.

 

Would you prefer we have owners who treat the club similarly to those that Wigan, Bury, Bolton etc have had? Put the club at risk by spending on players who aren’t realistically that good nor an improvement?

You must have been sat amongst the folk bleating ‘they need to spend some bloody brass’ too long and have bought into the rhetoric.

We have never been a spending a club. Always a selling one. I accept that.

The issue for me was that under the previous board of this ownership, the club was taken further and further away from the fans and the community, it was made clear they didn’t care about the club and didn’t care that we knew; they made it clear they weren’t remotely arsed about the fans or the area. Just about the top line and buying more obscure clubs around Europe.

The boardroom coup d’etat if you wish to refer to it as that this summer put in place a board that has made steps, tentatively, to begin to repair that. They are clearly listening to supporters. (Except about Beevor Court but this isn’t the thread for my rants on that subject…).

They are engaging with supporters groups, asking what we want and providing what they can. They have given us a straight talking and straight forward manager, who understands the values of a club and area like Barnsley, and also knows his bloody onions in league one. They appointed a man to succeed in this league, not a European coach to try and enhance the reputation of and cash in on.

They told us in the summer they’d need to sell players and then they did, though probably not as many as we all feared. They signed players with experience in the English / Scottish leagues, including utilising the loan market.

They then didn’t sell anyone of note in January despite plenty of rumours surrounding players like Andersen, Collins and particularly Jordan Williams.

They reacted quickly to a long term injury of a loanee centre back and brought in a replacement who thus far has looked better, long throws aside.

They even signed a couple of Centre forwards. Quality yet to be seen but still. They also let Jack Aitchison go for non footballing reasons and that is the kind of thing I would like to take pride in as some clubs would refuse to do such a thing.

 

And there we go.

I really don’t think this club is for you.

When I felt you were advocating the club spending a load of money it hasn’t got I thought you were a little delusional. Then you said Spurs have a genuine target of winning the premier league and confirmed it…

Also, you are Darren Gough and I claim my £5. Are your Tory party membership subs due?[/QUOTE]
You're spot on. Donate the £5 to charity.