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I think we all know why she still gets games at this level and it's nothing to do with her refereeing ability.

 

Interesting statistic tweeted last night by Joe Beardsall regarding penalties awarded to the top 7 teams in League One fixtures:
Bolton - 8 Derby - 7 Wednesday - 7 Plymouth - 6 Peterborough - 6 Ipswich - 5 and we all know the number for Barnsley.
I don't believe there's any conspiracy against us and instead think it's down to human error but it does deserve further investigation. Professional Game Match Officials Ltd should be looking at this and working with referees who have reffed the games when the worst 'no-penalty' decisions have been made (including yesterday obviously) to investigate what is going on and use the examples as coaching opportunities. The evidence suggests that we haven't been competing on a level playing field this season.

Interesting also that JAQ tweeted last night about it. I can't post it here for some reason but here's the text:
The non-hand ball call today was absolutely shocking. All @EFL teams deserve better. With so much $$ and time invested by clubs players coaches administrators to see things like this happen repeatedly in not just our games but others surely begs for investigation.
And added:
And I forgot to mention that all the @EFL FANS who part with hard earned money to support teams up and down the country deserve better

She's quite right too. It's not acceptable and putting it down to luck which gets evened out over the season isn't either.

 

I get all that, I think STs response to Dreambob just confused the matter.

DB said 'we still get really bad decisions against us.'

ST replied 'Because football in the UK is corrupt. The fa is corrupt, the EFL is corrupt and the pgmol is corrupt and they have absolutely no shame about it,' which suggests the decision yesterday is a direct result of all those associations being corrupt. That's what he put, a sweeping statement in response to DBs point. Now if we're saying someone across all those boards who are Ipswich and Plymouth fans and have major influence looked at yesterday's fixtures and thought, right, we could do with a Barnsley loss at Burton and a draw for Wednesday at best, and contacted the officials of those games to steer the course of the action, I don't believe it. If we aren't, I'd argue STs response was way off - why even corralate the two if that's not what he was getting at? It's confused matters. I think the ref just got it wrong. Corruption definitely happens, but it's higher up when the stakes are higher and there's way more money to be made (Serie A etc.).

 

Agree entirely, and the inconsistency is bewildering at times. But I think my point about the ref bottling it yesterday still stands.

I know there are probably some decisions gone our way that are easily forgotten about (Wednesday’s claim for a handball for example), but we’ve had some really big decisions go against us. That red card for Mads not only cost us any chance in that Bolton game, but also the following game where he was banned. And Andersen had just been fouled.

 

If decisions do even themselves out (of course they do)....with 7 games to go that means we will get one penalty per game to even it all out with the rest of the top 7 teams in this league.
Can't wait tbh....hope our coach has a decent pen taker!

 

Did JAQ Tweet about our first goal against Morecambe and how it should have been ruled out because when Kane took the freekick he touched it twice? Was she concerned how EFL clubs deserve better when the error was to our advantage rather than our disadvantage?

 

I don't know Jay. But she does say 'All EFL Teams deserve better' so I believe she is saying that. What's your point?

 

Careful.. you’ll can’t be saying anything like that on here.

 

Its down to quality of refereeing and the 'courage' of those referees to do the right thing in whatever circumstances. Would a penalty have been awarded at Oakwell for that incident by the same referee? If the answer is 'yes' then the ref is a coward. If 'no' then the ref is simply poor. Referees are under great pressure and they get lots of stick and nastiness hurled at them but at the end of the day reffing is what they are doing and they need to be coached, held to account by the efl and rewarded properly or demoted.

 

Surely its a more plausible explanation that that was bent than a mistake? A full time professional making a 'mistake' like that? Nah. Sorry. Not credible.

 

It makes sense for sides at the top of the league to get more pens. This is why I'm not concerned about Wednesday, Ipswich, Plymouth etc having got the most - they're having great seasons and will be spending loads of time in the box and drawing fouls. But so are we!

Personally I think VAR should be introduced/amended to be like DRS in cricket. It's not at the call of the fourth official & ref, it's at the call of the captains. 3 wrong challenges and no more VAR for your side for the rest of the game. That would avoid overuse/petulance and could help deal with **** decisions like yesterday.

 

So which refs have been taking off duty and for what errors?

 

3 is too many. 1 and the equivalent of umpires call each half.

 

Is that not 4?

Only joking. It is something that would want debating/working out (the number), but I think that would be a much better system than what we have now.

 

PGMOL have made public statements over the weekend regarding the refereeing errors in the Brighton-Spurs game. Have I missed their comments about the howler at Burton?

 

Not condoning incompetence but refs at this level are not full-time professionals.

 

All the more reason why they would be susceptible to outside influence