Is there 2 types of VAR ?

I had a reply from the EFL regarding my complaint about the VAR decisions, They said

Thank you for your e-mail, we acknowledge your comments and appreciate you getting in touch.

The EFL receives numerous queries and complaints regarding individual officials’ decisions and their overall performances. It is relevant to clarify that Professional Game Match Officials (PGMOL) is responsible for the selection of match officials and while we are not always able to comment on specific incidents, we can advise that having engaged with PGMOL, the two incidents in the EFL League One Play-Offs are both subjective decisions and the VAR decided that the on-field match officials were not clear and obviously wrong, therefore they decided not to intervene.

Of course, we understand that as a fan it can be frustrating when a decision goes against your team however, all officials at SG1, SG2 and within the National list have undergone many years training and development to reach these levels, at all times being subject to these PGMOL requirements relating to integrity and transparency.


WTF is a subjective decision, where in the rules of the game does it say it's OK to kick an opponent to the ground.

 

Yes i have to say the non penalty last week wasn't missed by the VAR officials it couldn't be missed' it was ignored and that can only mean one thing unfortunately' its very worrying for the game of football.

 

Thanks for this @tykesfan. So it was the wrong call by Robinson for the penalty but not obviously wrong. That’s what I don’t like about it, surely VAR should be used to correct errors not just errors that are obviously wrong. And if he kicked Kitching how is it not obviously wrong? I thought the offence was kicking or attempting to kick an opponent.

 

Its not the VAR its the corrupt readers of the damn thing

 

So basically as 99% of rules in football are subjective then var can never overturn a referee on those fouls as in his subjective opinion it could be a foul. In which case why did we bother referring it to var if they couldn't overturn it?

 

It makes it even more laughable that in one instance a player was kicked and yet in the other one wasn’t. One was a free kick and a red card and the other nothing at all. Seems quite clear and obvious to me - what’s the point of VAR if it doesn’t clear up decisions that aren’t given. I almost think teams should have a request system during a game if we cannot rely on the integrity of officials to make the right calls.

 

His hand was in the air. That's why nearly all defenders try to block with their hands clasped behind their backs these days. To avoid being hit on a raised hand.
It's a penalty and if you want a strict interpretation of last week that was a penalty too.

 

And last week the ball was not under control and was falling into a melee where there was no clear goalscoring opportunity.
You can't interpret the rules one way one week and entirely differently the next just to suit an agenda.
My big problem with last week was that two accidental collisions were interpreted differently and we were on the wrong end of both. We were done by terrible officiating.

 

From the laws of the game
"A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation."


The position of Grealish's arm was perfectly justifiable and a consequence of running and jumping in the air. The evidence to support this is that the Manchester United player who runs and jumps with him has his arms in an almost identical position.

This is a subjective matter and wasn't a clear and obvious error by the referee and so should not have been overturned using var as per the rules.

 

The sooner they bring in “ intentional “ the better.

 

Are you seriously suggesting that we didn't get a penalty last weekend because either a) we're Barnsley or b) we were playing Sheffield Wednesday?
There is no conspiracy against us. That's bordering on paranoia.
What there is is serious incompetence on the part of referees and VAR teams and a desire from the EFL to hide that incompetence wherever possible.

 

What about the possibility that it was due to subconscious big team bias?

 

I was just coming to that MT.
I'd say the most blatant penalty claim we had turned down this season. So blatant it was outrageous was against....
Burton Albion.
And with that I'm off out into the garden.