Managers

We've had thirteen managers in the last ten years, (seventeen if you want to include caretakers) Hecky longest serving in that time and even he left us, one of our own. You'd think we'd be used to a manager leaving.

Longevity in the manager role isn't a thing anymore, whether that be from the club's view to stop bad performances, or losing a manager due to success.

Worse things are going off in the world to be getting upset about another manager leaving us. Onto the next one if Duff leaves and enjoy the season.

You Reds.

 

I understand that perspective in all things is important, but no one is saying that us losing another manager is worse then people's real life trials and tribulations, at any one time someone somewhere is getting murdered, raped, beaten, bullied, dying and any number of other horrible things, but you can't caveat every complaint you make or opinion you express with this, thinking that this situation with the club is a bag of sh*te doesn't lesson the tragedies of life, and it they shouldn't be used to shutdown people's opinions about it.

 

Nor did I say anyone has said that? Take it you're upset over it considering your touchy reply.

 

I just think that "it could be worse" is the bad take your boss would use when not giving you a pay rise or Jeremy Hunt would use to justify higher interest rates or how it can excuse any number of things which people show discontent with - don't like the Tories? Could be worse you could live in South Sudan, well yes thanks for that, but I don't and it doesn't detract from how crap they are thanks. etc, etc.

 

You're making the situation a whole lot deeper than it really is, what exactly do you want the club to do? The guy literally has a release clause in his contract, who knows maybe stipulated by himself at the point of negotiation.

It absolutely could be a lot worse, the club could be going under instead? We could have been relegated instead of the season we'd had. We're potentially losing a manager. Don't take it so personally, which it seems like you have.

Cheer up, the club will still be here that's not going to Swansea too.

 

We're losing ANOTHER manager but we move on it's the Barnsley way iam afraid and always will be.

 

It seems like you don’t want discussion on a thread that you started?

There definitely is a population of “at least we still have a club” posters on here. I’m not massively interested in minimum expectations being met either.

 

Go on then....."At least were not Bury"...there I've said it!
Joking aside we need to be stronger in the way we negotiate....but he left us with a release clause, maybe that should have been larger.

 

I don't get what there is to discuss? What do you want to do, protest outside the west stand and not let him leave? Or shall we force the board to only sign managers who commit the rest of their career to us?

 

Could we worse. We could be piggies fans.

 

When anything doesn't go as planned then there's always something to discuss otherwise you might be missing an opportunity to stop it happening in the future. Regressing to a "lap of the Gods "fatalism isn't the way to move forward in any aspect of life, including the retention of the most important job at Barnsley FC.

 

Its every clubs way,have a bit of success and everybody at the club is in demand,A poor season or just an average season and players are released and managers replaced.If you were the owner of BFC would you stop duff from leaving,i very much doubt it.Cheltenham,Barnsley,Swansea and who knows what next.

 

We can’t even have chance to sack these days. Hecky, Struber, Ismael, Duff.

 

I totally agree with you on that. However, if the manager wants to leave unless the club have a realistic value they can get for him it's always going to be the case that we lose people in all areas. Do we want a manager who doesn't want to be here? I don't think anyone would say yes, so we have to cash in. The club is never going to be able to demand mega money for a manager who's track record up to this point had been league 1/2 football.

 

If Duff does leave, can I just place on record I have no idea who'll we appoint next? Truth be told, I have an open mind on who I'd like. Only two individuals make up a very short list of who I DON'T want, Joey Barton & Steve Cotterill!

 

Darren Moore all day long, great record, great reputation, ex-red, what’s not to like?

 

The football his teams play? I'd personally like Disco to be given a shot.

 

As I said, I have no idea who'll we appoint. I know Khaled will not be interested in the slightest on who I'd want. For the record, I wouldn't have a problem if we appointed Darren Moore. Then again, I wouldn't have a problem were it to be an internal promotion, either.

 

This might be a useful guide:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/trainervergleich/wettbewerb/GB3

Or failing that:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/trainervergleich/wettbewerb/GB4

 

I mean he wouldn't be my first choice, and I don't think he'd take it anyway. But he was obviously in this league last season against us and Duff and his team scored more than us, conceded less, won more games, lost half as many as we did and ultimately got more points than us.

I obviously didn't watch any of their games apart from the ones against us but his football can't have been that bad throughout the season based on that.