Misogynistic attitude or reasonable opinion???

Agree Paul..I hug my lad even tho he's 6'6" and built like a proverbial outdoor loo..also as he works away if we skype I always end with telling him I love him...cos I love him and his Sister..

 

I don't think she's overreacted but I do think she's been pushed into making a 'bigger deal' out of it than she perhaps would have done if not. She's stuck in a position where if she does nothing then she will be criticised left right and centre for not standing up for women everywhere.

The poor lass has had so much pressure put on her by the media and by basically everyone who supports women's rights throughout the world to 'make him pay' and show the world it won't be accepted but it's not only that. His entire response to it, accusing her of lifting him off his feet and enjoying it and then releasing videos of her laughing will only have made her feel worse and more and more angry the more he doubles down and blames her. She's a dog that's been backed into a corner and the natural response to that is to come out fighting which is all she's doing.

If it had only been that kiss and he had apologised to her sincerely immediately afterwards and then acted professionally and morally in his initial responses to it all publicly I think there's a chance she may have reacted totally differently and possibly accepted his apology but the arrogant **** didn't do that, instead he acted like some kind of rapist who thinks he can do what he wants unchallenged and now he's quite rightly getting what he deserves.

 

In my experience men will make sexual comments to the face of women they don't know such as the catcalling ewe all know about etc but with women they do know (such as colleagues) they will make comments ABOUT them to other men but not TO them. Women on the other hand will quite openly make sexual comments to men and feel like it's perfectly acceptable.

In my current job I've been asked by the 'women in the office' how big I am, how often I masturbate, whether I've ever had anything up my arse, whether I would have sex with each of the women in the office (ie would you have sex with Sarah? Would you have sex with Laura? Would you have sex with Leanne? Etc), whether I would try anything gay, whether I have any kinks and probably loads more I can't remember. Oh and told 'go on, get it out, let's have a look'.
And I'm not particularly close to any of them either, we don't have an overly friendly relationship.

When I was a teenager at a previous job I was flashed by a woman I worked there. Never been more embarrassed in my life.

If I was to flash a woman at work I'd be arrested.


I'd like to say I don't have an anti-woman agenda by the way. Some of the things that I've heard men say ABOUT women are disgusting. I've noticed It tends to be the older men too who say things that are really unacceptable and I've actually heard the younger 18-25 year old males reply to them (in a light-hearted manner) 'you can't say that' quite a lot of times which makes me think that attitudes are definitely changing for the better.
Actually it tends to be the older people who are blatantly racist too

 

Nice one T.
Just started chuckling to missen. But I once recall saying tut eldest. Both are 6ft +. Size 13 shoes. Me 5'10" in high heels.
Me " is it true what they say about big feet"
Him "No dad"
Me " Well at least i know now thas got some of mi genes"
"

 

I find that really weird. Not as in I don’t believe you, because I do, I just mean I find their behaviour weird. Maybe it’s because I work in schools but I just cannot imagine a work situation where someone would say that to a colleague.

 

The women in our office are particularly toxic in my opinion. They see absolutely no problem with shouting insults across an open office. Not insults to each other but about anyone who is a man. Actually again similar to the men, there's one lass in the office who is early 20s and she's the most professional and polite person I've met. Thick as mince like but extremely polite and friendly and I've never heard her make any comments. It's the women who are all ages between 50 and 65 that are the ones who think that rules don't apply to them.

 

it goes on, will back up supertyke,was kneeling down once in factory I was working older women comes up simulating rubbing her nether regions in my face, no agenda either, just expected to laugh it off

 

not replying to anyone - just giving my perspective on the Hermoso/Rubales situation from personal experience.

 

Spanish attitudes to kissing are very different to ours. But he was out of order. Especially with the reaction afterwards.

I do worry about the next few generations as flirty chat appears to be off limits. (I don’t mean offensive chat) Humans need to build up sexual attraction. This starts in fun chat before anything happens, but if the first interaction is a question of whether they accept the advances it’s all too clinical.

 

ooooh errrrrrrrrrrrrr, flirty chat ,how dare you? young man

 

Just an opinion.
Is that not a major point though JD. Different workplaces. Different attitudes. What may seem crass in one environment is seen as banter in another. That's why it's hard to judge others. I've come through 2. mainly male industries. What conversations go on. would not be repeated with women there. The vast majority is without a doubt banter but could and would be misinterpreted. The thread on here of "who would you" would be typical in those work environments. But most would not participate in that thread. As it could demean women.

 

In my day. The chat was. "Mi mate fancies thi, will tha gu on a date with im" . Worked for me.
Never forgiven him . "Ouch" "sorry love."

 

That makes it alright then

 

Not me… I’m well past it.

 

opposite at my place, some were quite mad. I told them to put the kettle on and calm down and while they were at mine is two sugars. That didn’t go down well either. Time of month probably. You can’t say anything these days

 

At the NTAs this week sir Ian Mckellen pulled Sarah Lancashire towards himself and kissed her on the lips. She didn't seem as though that is what she wanted to do. No-one seems to be tearing strips off him for doing this. Is there a difference that I have missed or is it something else.

 

I mean this is clearly a wrong depiction of what happened. Sir Ian pursed his lips for a kiss but didn't push himself on her and she met him in the middle for a brief mutually accepted kiss, embraced and talked after which is a thousand miles away from the incident that happened after the final.

That's what you're missing, intentionally or otherwise.

 

It was very awkward. Sarah looked as though she was caught of guardand didn't know what to do. Surely you need to ask permission if you want to kiss someone.The Spanish player was laughing and seemed fine after it happened too. Double standards.

 

I didn’t see it so probably shouldn’t comment but if he pursed and waited for her to bridge the difference that is asking permission. Still not something I’d want him to do to me though!