Penalties

I’m sure I read somewhere that Khaled has written multiple times to the EFL complaining about refs

are we getting punished for this

I try to avoid conspiracy theories but I am really starting to struggle with any other theory to explain the absolutely ridiculous stats regarding penalties not awarded to BFC !!

 

Said exactly same to mi son after the game. It's making me paranoid lol.

 

I’ve stopped beating myself up about it and I’m resigned to us not ever getting one

 

I've no issue with Blackpool's penalty today.

What I do have an issue with is that seemingly every single time a penalty should be given to the opposition it gets given, yet they're never given to us in the same situations. I always think there can't be a conspiracy but then how else do you explain it? It's beyond bad luck now.

 

It can't not be bias of some form, whether conscious or subconcious. It's ridiculous to suggest it's anything other than that given the prolonged record over several years (i've posted it previously).

There's no way the Sheffield Wednesday final wasn't subject to manipulation of some form.

It's just daft to suggest that it's incompetence when that incompetence always manifests itself in us not getting penalties, but they're competent enough to see the ones we concede.

 

Here's the history:

23/24 D1 Pos 7th Pens For 0 Pens Against 3 Pen Difference -3
22/23 D1 Finished 5th Pens For 1 Pens Against 7 Pen difference -6
21/22 CH 24th PF 2 PA 6 PD -4
20/21 CH 5th PF 8 PA 3 PD 5
19/20 CH 21st PF 2 PA 4 PD -2
18/19 D1 2nd PF 3 PA 6 PD -3
17/18 CH 22nd PF 3 PA 5 PD -2
16/17 CH 14th PF 2 PA 11 PD -9
TOTAL PF 21 PA 45 PD -24

BUt It EvEnS ItSeLf OuT. Nonsense. Occam's razor leads you to believe it's fixed.

 

This is exactly it. When you look at the stats above, over the years we are broadly in the middle of the normal distribution for penalties conceded. But for pens awarded we're not even in the distribution, we're off in like the 1st percentile.

 

You don't get penalties tippy tapping it about across the back line.

 

We've done that for 8 years have we? Collins has had about 8 games, not 8 seasons.

 

Interesting numbers, but to try and assess whether there's fairness, you need to try and come up with some kind of measure that evaluates how many each team should get based on their dominance within the game. For a lot of the seasons you're citing, we'd reasonably expect to get fewer penalties as we're spending less time in the opponents area due to being crap.

I don't much like xG as a stat, but it'd be interesting to see which sides get most and fewest pens relative to xG.

 

League position? That was the reason for me adding it. You'd think in seasons where we were dominant generally the stats would favour us, but no....

 

The only season in that list where the PD figure is +ve was the season of Big Val with an up-and-at-em attitude where we spent much more time pressuring the opposition's defenders so that's understandable. But how can you explain what happened last season or Stendel's promotion season? It's starting to look like there's some sort of statistically significant bias somewhere.

 

Yea I'm sure someone ran the numbers on this, because it would suggest we spend very little time in the oppositions box, so maybe score our goals from outside the area, which is just ridiculous.
Last season was just off the scale, all our rivals had 7 to 9 pens...we get one!
Half my family are leeds, who believe that the officials are totally against them but all can't believe we had one pen all season.

 

There may be some truth in what you say. It's become so well publicised. Refs will certainly not give a soft looking one. And will only give one when it's a diving save from a defender. (Then I'm not so sure. Looking for an offside that wasnt there. And discuss ways and means with the linesman to not give it. )
If memories serve me right. you do know we'll miss anyway like the last couple . Donny and forest Green. The last one we scored I think was against Crewe. And tbh. Extremely harsh decision.

 

I'm same, should have definitely had 2 yesterday. Cosgrove push and the handball

 

Penalties against us are mostly for trips.
Penalties we claim are mostly for pushes and handball where there is more room / licence for refs to wave it away.
We need to stop going to ground in desperate lunges and create more runs into the box if we want this to change.

 

I don’t believe there is a conspiracy. The good news is based on this we must be due a lot of penalties in the next few seasons!

 

People grasping in this thread for obscure reasons but won't countenance the most obvious explanation, that there's bias of some sort at play.

 

Never heard such drivel in all my life.