Liam Roberts

I disagree with this - I think goalkeepers are the most undervalued member of a football team. They have the largest individual impact on the number of goals a team concedes and it's the position where it's hardest for a spectator to identify the nuances of a great keeper and therefore identify the impact it has. This leads to the attitude of "well they're all much of a muchness" apart from keepers who are regularly dropping clangers.

We see a keeper dive and narrowly miss saving a shot and think "oh fair enough that's not his fault he tried" whereas a better keeper might have slightly adjusted his positioning and footing prior to the shot allowing him to save it. Nobody sees or analyses that, and I think we all have a bias towards thinking that if a keeper saves something then any other keeper would have saved it as well and that's not necessarily true.

 

I hope we are. Just have a bad feeling. Maintain the point our new board have impressed me this far though

 

Previous loans, get in early before the vultures circle and the value goes way out of our league.

 

I posted the rule on this a few weeks ago, not motivated to look for it again, but Middlesbrough can't recall him, inside or outside the transfer window.

A season long loan can be terminated in the January transfer window but both clubs must agree to this, the parent club can't just recall the loaned player.

Not sure how this would work in practice if the parent club did want a recall. I guess they could privately say to the loaning club that unless they agreed to the termination of the loan, they'll never loan the club another player.

 

Thanks. Didn't think I'd imagined it.

 

Isted fell through because of Duff leaving.
Thomas was supposedly a done deal if we went up.
Watters signed permanently.

Seems like we were being reasonably proactive to me.

 

Should have signed isted a week after wembley when he was released by luton tho

 

Thought someone on here said his Dad told them he was going on holiday to think over?
Which sounds to me club tried but he wanted to wait.

 

How do you know we didn't try?

 

goalkeepers are ten a penny?

Seriously?

 

I’d have liked to have got him. But Roberts looks a lot better than Isted to me.

I’d suggest he’d have kept Josh Windass’ header out for a start.

And I’m not having a go at Isted, he was very good for us. He’d had a great game at Wembley too. But he should have saved that.

 

the last dodgy keeper we had was ross turnbull, think he had a bad back and stiff muscles, was like the tinman

 

Yeah there has to be an agreement, I think that was the case back at the time of the Drinkwater incident as well. ‘Recalling’ them is the wrong term but it amounts to the same thing

Of course it’s folly to think that if the parent club want to terminate the loan that the receiving club won’t be made to agree to it. Especially when you are a league one or two club loaning from a premier league or championship team. We’d be blacklisting ourselves.

Not only would Boro not loan us any more players, but neither would anybody else either.

 

dont disagree troff but in all fairness i think sky and bbc gave Isted man of match at wembley for his performance

shame it didn't go to pens- i reckon we'd have won and harry would have saved a few

 

There's a lot of apparently's in there. The first two came to us barely known and became established first team players for us, maybe we act a bit more quickly and we can get them.

 

When was the last time we paid for a goalkeeper?

 

Whilst I don't agree with you that decent goalies are "ten a penny", that's a very interesting question. Kevin Miller maybe?

 

I think we paid money for Nick Townsend, although I can't imagine it was much. Before that I think you're right and it was Kevin Miller, 24 years ago. Which tends to suggest that 'ten a penny' is over exaggerating the cost of keepers to the tune of one penny.

And it's not like we bought a lot of keepers before that. Tuppence Ha'penny for Tony Bullock, about quarter of a million for Lars Leese Tall as Trees, and a similar amount for Lee Butler. Struggling to think of any others.

 

this summer

600k for bradford keeper

bid lodged anyway

 

Didn’t we pay for Müller?