But I guess that's my point. The method in which we've gone about it has been drastically wrong, but obviously the intention was for us to go from strength to strength. I get that we've had a huge turnover of managers and players, and probably as a result, gone backwards. But we're not the only club that has, and others have progressed by doing it; the aforementioned Luton for example, Forest being another. I honestly don't think the ambition of our club is to merely tread water.
But the need for us to make £7/8 million on 2 centre halves is negated by the extra £8+million we'd make from TV money by being in the Championship, and subsequently the £100m+ in the Premier League.
One is easily achievable the other requires investment. Our ambition is to make money. We don’t want to gamble to go up so we go to our comfort zone our last play off push was a failure because we didn’t monetise it. Its the ambition of Penistone Church to play in the premiership. Doesn’t mean they actively believe it’s possible or behave in a way that makes it achievable.
Perhaps. But take this season as an example. A whole defensive unit replaced with league one & two (both of which had been involved at relegated sides) and in some cases non league players. The only signing we made from a league level from the uk was on loan once we realised kitching was going and ended up spending money on a loan player. Which is effectively some more money down the drain. Again we have tried to say we have a model yet not actually follow it time and time again - yet we still have a plan.
Smart player recruitment and getting the balance right with a nice blend of experience, youth, plenty of power and pace. They've also more crucially for me recruited their managers very well, Nathan Jones left 17/18 season and they put Mick Harford in charge, then appointed Graeme Jones which they realised wasn't working and got shut when Covid kicked in bringing back Jones to secure safety along with ourselves. When Jones left for the second time again they got it absolutely bang on. Very well thoughout calculated decsions, with "on pitch" being primary focus.
Didn't Neerav tell us that, the priority now should be and will go back to the football 'on the pitch'. I didn't believe him when he said it then, and things have just carried on or rather got worse since then. Regarding them being all about financial gain, instead of on the pitch success.
I think we should wait until their accounts are made public before making too many assumptions. Smaller gates than us, but could afford to pay Morris and Woodrow better terms, or could they? One things for sure though, football has changed since they were last in the top flight, and the premier league money is only a short term boost for a small club. Moving to a new, bigger ground will help for as long as they keep the new fans engaged, but those bandwagon fans will soon get fed up when things level out again, just like Wigan and Readings - turned into blue seats.
The thing is the club has got to be seen to have ambition, that’s what attracts players. We are just a club that has a dream. To players we are just a set of dreamers. Players throughout their careers like to be in a shop window. They know moving on from Barnsley is easy, we don’t put up a fight. The shop window is important to players. In the championship the shop is in Barnsley town centre. In division one it’s in Wombwell. If we drop to division 2 then the shop window is in Dodworth. Unfortunately when we shop we look in places like Dodworth or even Stairfoot.
you mean the season that was a failure because no one wanted to buy our players? Only ambition they had was to make money.
But you've taken James Cryne's words completely out of context there. He said the style of play devalued our players. He didn't say anything about wanting to sell them, or that the season was a failure. As discussed further up, the club obviously do want to make money, it's a business at the end of the day, but I don't think that means we don't want to play at the highest level either.
Luton have proved it can still be done. Good on 'em. BUT in answer to the OP: because since the end of 2017 (when Luton were a long way below us in the pyramid and feeding off our scraps) we have been owned by a group who were sold a dream by Conway that there was money to be made as a feeder club from developing youngsters and selling on for profit. The rump of those people are still here. They appear to have no concept that success as a football club as its own rewards, just buy for a dime and sell for a dollar. I cite as evidence their declarations around the Ismail season and their recent disinterest in the FA Cup. Fair enough playing Horsham and then Sutton loses money but for all they knew a third round home tie with Man City was a possibility, on the numbers alone you have almost a one in three chance of drawing a premier league side in round 3. BUT there is some cause for thinking that success on the pitch is not their business model. I'll eat my words if we pay £1,000,000 for an established 28 year old centre half in the window. I also don't get this "we are paid in installments for Kitching etc". Yes we are but we will pay out in installments, doubtless capable of being timed to coincide when the Kitching installments are due to us. Instead, I fear we'll accept any half decent bids and replace with another bunch of kids. On we go, ad nauseam
Financial gain or financial stability. As far as I can tell there is no gain. As it stands. In fact they are still pumping money in to pay the Bill's. Balancing the books is a more likely scenario. Wycombe got promotion on freebies. We are in better nick for investment. So hopefully if we get promoted in the next year or so. (Hopefully this,) we will be more stable re ffp rules. And not having to rely on debt to the directors. The money gained by the club in transfer fees has apparantly been used towards the team and that is what was said and if the manager feels he needs to strengthen the side it would be looked at. (It doesnt come in a lump sum. And thrown straight back out. Players wages are still an issue i believe).
Exactly, they always have and always will be like that. The business side of it means more to them than the football side, ambition is a word they refuse to understand.
