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  1. Tru

    TrueRed92 Well-Known Member

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    so my brother was caught by a speed camera van doing what he believes to be 45 in a 30.

    Speedo was saying 45
    Although Google maps was saying 42. But obviously that doesn't matter, either way he's speeding.

    Has anyone been done before? (recently)
     
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    Bossman Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I got caught doing 35 in a 30,
     
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    andytyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    If it's his first time or first time for a while and has no points on lisence reply straight away and probably get offered a speed awareness course .


    Or maybe not at 40+ in a 30
     
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    From looking online it’s a Band B offence (above 41mph in a 30mph). Your brother will be served with a Notice of Intended Prosecution within 14 days. No course will be offered as it’s too severe a break of the speed limit and it’s beyond the Fixed Penalty Notice punishment. If they do prosecute it can take up to 6 months to serve court papers. A fine and a possible ban (of up to 28 days) will be decided upon. If it’s a first offence they may decide to issue points (between 4 and 6) rather than give a ban.
     
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    Dragon Tyke Well-Known Member

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    He will be shipped off to Rwanda, just thee see.
     
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    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Did 42 in a 30 two years ago.
    £100 fine and 3 points.
    We don’t have the option of a speed awareness course.
     
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    Prince of Risborough Well-Known Member

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    My heinous crime, recently committed, was 34 mph on a long straight road near Filey that has a few houses scattered along one side. Some idiot deemed this to be a 30mph zone (presumably a local councillor lives there) and I carelessly let myself get caught by a van camera in a layby.

    I say idiot because there is no danger there, no built up area like a housing estate - just a few houses. Anyway I got caught and despite asking for evidence regarding the camera callibration etc they just ignored that and offered me the course or £100 fine plus points. Through gritted teeth I paid for a course which will take about three hours and costs £88.

    I know I was careless but it's so galling to be prosecuted like this for just a few mph over a limit when we all see clowns racing up and down streets and out of town roads without a care in the world. That is often dangerous driving - no one could dispute that - yet here am I (a relatively slow and very careful driver) getting hit for straying just over the 30 :mad::mad:
     
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    Redblueunwhite Well-Known Member

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    I got caught 630 at morning doing 33 in a 30,pitch black so no idea the van was there. Did the course which is very interesting and really dose open yer eyes. NO tests and no pressure, no points so don't have to inform your insurance. Iam always fuming when you see some of the speeds people drive and yer can bet most don't get caught.
     
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    Not much point.. after a couple of glasses of Buckfast everything gets forgotten anyway.
     
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    Not to sound harsh, but if he was doing 45 in a 30 he deserves to get done and should just take his medicine.
     
  12. Tyke The Tree-Frog

    Tyke The Tree-Frog Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I really don't understand why people do it. Its there for a reason.
     
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    One moral of the story is always have your Sat Nav on for all but the shortest journeys - even if you know the route well. It's particularly helpful for 'pinging' the mobile speedcams that the North Yorkshire Lodge appear increasingly fond of! :D

    *Orsenkaht does not endorse exceeding the speed limit save for emergency situations. "It shouldn't be 30 mph there", "it's just a money-making racket" or "I'm a really careful driver" will not pass muster!
     
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    Might escape with the course. If he meets the criteria below. (Picked up online)

    If no other speeding offence has been committed in the previous 3 years Speed exceeding the legal limit by being over 10% + 2mph but under 10% + 9 mph. For example, in a 30mph speed limit the course might be offered to drivers travelling at speeds of 35-42 mph and in a 70mph area the course may be offered to drivers travelling at speeds of 79-86 mph.

    I generally find my digital speed in the car to be more than those warnings signs. Eg
    30 in car. is normally 28 on sign when approaching.

    I use speed limiter in built up areas and cruise control on motorways quite a lot.

    Except limiter doesnt recognise downhill lol. And doesn't brake. Having to drop gears and that doesnt allus work.

    Tell him to live and learn mate. :)
     
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    Yes hw will , parameters are 10% plus 9 for any speed awareness course.
     
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    These are the starting points in the sentencing guidelines based on speeds recorded at each limit. These can then be adjusted depending on any aggravating or mitigating circumstances. Whether 42 or 45mph, it would fall into the mid-range of offences. I doubt there's any prospect of a speed awareness course at that level, but a fixed penalty notice, if offered, would provide a preferable outcome.

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