Sam Winnall

What do we think about this?

 

I think he’s a disrespectful little ***** who doesn’t deserve my attention. I’ll therefore give it a miss.

 

I think it would be great if he came out on one of our media platforms.

 

Huh?

 

Could have been a hero. Wasn't in the end, but probably made bank regardless.

The time when he was in the team, though, with Hourihane. Some of the best football I've ever known following Barnsley. At times we looked unbeatable.

 

It was to be fair. To this day I’m convinced we got in the play offs with that team if we didn’t break it up mid season. And no-one would have fancied plying us. What might have been eh?

Interesting that this has come up at the same time as the ‘players not trying thread’. I believe 99% of professional players give %100 most of the time. Most people simply can’t reach them levels without doing so. I honestly think Winnall is an exception. He was dynamite for us and Scunny. He then got his massive payday and it seemed to me he declared as soon as the ink dried on that contract. Admittedly he got a bad injury later on but Wednesday fans I’ve spoke to in the past about him don’t remember him with any fondness.

 

I think people need to put their opinions about Sam to one side for a minute, and recognise how opening up about his own mental health could be beneficial to someone who really needs to hear it.

I applaud anyone who's trying to get more people talking about mental health, as whilst we've certainly come a long way in the last few years, there's still far too many people (particularly young men) taking their own lives in this country.

 

dont mean to be a ,oh your not right kinda bloke, but think people need to know its actually
Males aged 50-54 were found to have the highest suicide rate (23.1 per 100,000), go steady out there, try and talk to someone, take one day at a time, not sure why that age, maybe you been grafting over 35 years and think, all I've done is live from wage to wage,my feeling at moment sadly ,who knows but whatever age it happens its a tragedy

 

I'll be honest, I hadn't checked the statistics before posting, however it's often portrayed in the media that it's more prominent in younger men. I've actually just googled to check and that told me that it's actually the age bracket below what you've said. Either way, my initial point was that we shouldn't let predudice get in the way of an important message, which ultimately Sam is going to talk about when he's on football heaven next week. If anyone is thinking of calling in, and asking him about his transfer from us to Wednesday, I plead you to reconsider, given the nature of his appearance on the show. There'll be another time and place for that to happen if you really want to know, I'm sure.

 

Well said, totally agree.

 

This. It's amazing to think we are constantly told to talk and someone is always listening.
In my experience I've found it quite the opposite.

 

Yes I agree,I told someone about my worries and he was ,don’t involve me ,your lucky if you get someone to listen who what’s to get involved

 

True indicator to get rid of that person There are strangers who’d listen.

In future, here’s a link to a totally anonymous live web chat with a real person on the end listening and responding.

https://www.thecalmzone.net/

 

Best one is "man up, gi thi head a sheck"

 

Very true. Thanks for this.

 

My problem wasn't that I couldn't talk to anyone, I was just too embarrassed to open up to someone I know. Which is why, one evening I got a phone call from a cold caller from EE, trying to flog me stuff to add onto my phone contract, and instinctively, I began telling my life story to him. He didn't try and cut me off, he didn't try and patronise me with 'it'll get better' or anything like that, he just listened and empathised. At that time, that's all I needed.

 

I believe the reason we tend to assume it's younger men is because it's often quoted that suicide is the biggest cause of death for men under 40 (I may be wrong on that but that's how I remember it) but that doesn't mean that men under 40 are most likely to commit suicide, it means that men under 40 don't tend to die of other things as much whereas men over 40 do because they're older.

On the subject of winnall. I wouldn't mind someone asking him about his move to wednesday relating to his mental health. I've his wages increased (presumably) but looking back did that increase in wealth aid his mental health or did the circumstances and relationships that were harmed due to the move cause a strain on his mental health? Did the money outweigh the loss of respect and the toll that may take?
I feel that's a worthwhile question because people regularly have to make the decision to change jobs for money so the opinion of someone who has done so quite publicly could be a valuable insight for others. I'd like to see it asked sensitively though.

 

But did you upgrade your contract?

 

Interesting questions. You could ring in yourself / email them in advance ?

 

That's the statistic, yes I did misquote it.