Good girl?

Fair enough, but this was a work situation

 

I get called lad semi regularly by women in the workplace. Not sure that's anywhere similar to boy or girl to be honest

 

I'd be very offended if someone called me "lad semi".

 

You don’t change how you speak and act at work compared to with your mates? You must have a very relaxed workplace or a very formal relationship with your friends. Your views don’t change, just the way you present yourself.

 

What about "Hard lad"

 

Having thought about it, I suppose at my age "lad semi" is about right...

 

If he had said that in the corporate part of our business it would have been a disciplinary. Sexism quite clearly. Portraying it as ‘humour’ is just self justifying ********.

 

Damn that woke brigade you can’t get away with blatant sexism racism and homophobia. Let’s yearn for the days when you could call a spade a spade and racists often did.

 

Nope. Treat everyone as you find 'em.

 

Do I think Brendan Rodgers is automatically a massive sexist for saying it? No.

Is the language appropriate? Definitely not.

At best it's infantilising and an inappropriate way to address a professional woman. That's heightened by the context - football is a male dominated sport where women face a real struggle to be recognised as being credible - just look at Joey Barton's ongoing crusade. To those defending him - would you address a new female colleague or client as "girl"?

 

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What if she was a girl?

Should we call her a giraffe?

 

She's 53. What if she was a pinball table? What if she was a hot air balloon? What if she was Leonardo, the leader of the teenage mutant ninja turtles?

 

"would you address a new female colleague or client as "girl"?"

Your words.

What if she was a girl?

Answer the question

 

All my colleagues and clients are well over the age of 18, so no. And absolutely definitely not in the case of a 53 year old woman.

 

I think you've hit the nail on the proverbial. Things like this are all about context surely. Having the commonsense to know what's appropriate in certain circumstances. If my daughter called me a good boy for making her a cuppa I'd have have a giggle about it. If my bank manager called me a silly boy for going overdrawn I wouldn't be very happy. Brendan Rodgers was in the wrong and its right it was pointed out to him. No harm done if the woman was ok with it of course (and he didn't smack her in the gob) but, again, in context, if he finds himself in a similar position he would be out of order doing it again as he would show he's not learned owt. Call people what you know they'll be comfortable with. If you're not sure if they'll be comfortable or not be professional and accurate.

 

"would you address a new female colleague or client as "girl"?"

17 year old YTS type walks in...........

Is she a girl? Are you afraid to call her what she is?

Perhaps you can tell me when it's time to call a girl a woman.

 

When does a boy stop being a boy and become a man? When does a girl become a woman? Indeed when does a toddler stop being a toddler? etc etc... I have no real idea.

 

Exactly. And why should it be a crime to say something more endearing than insulting.

 

It’s not what you say it’s the tone and context.

He’s ballsed up, irrespective of what the reporter has said after. Maybe she said she’s fine with it to nip it in the bud before people online go after her? He was still a patronising little pr1ck, and it’s not ok.

One of the reasons I ditched social media was the attacks on women, particularly in sport. Stuff like this fuels these morons sadly.

 

Casual sexism/bullying belongs in the 1970's. We can and should do better and show more respect in this day and age. You'd hope that would be especially true of a public role model in a multi-million pound job.