Jesus Christ, nothing to do with the game because before a ball hit the net it was absolutely dire. Various fan groups have tried with scarf day etc and it's ok for a few games then terrible again. Whitey mentioned that they are wanting the fans to do more. Does this recent fan group have any plans for a group to improve the atmosphere, I'm too old for that **** now but I'm taking the young un to the San Siro in 3 weeks to sit on the Curva Sud with Milan's ultras, we go to plenty of Milan games. He's 12 years old, he could have some good input into the group with the experience he's had. He sat there today saying how bad it's was (before a goal was scored) his mates from school sat there like mutes. It needs the young uns to come up with something
Its ultimately not up to the fans though. Its up to the players to entertain and work hard and show a bit of skill. Then, if its maintained the fans will respond and will encourage the players even more. The fans can help, yes, but its not fair if the fans are singled out for lack of support when they have paid their money and have put their bums on seats.
It's up to the fans before a ball is kicked, we were sitting pretty in the league, from minute 1 it was dreadful.
I (Eyup & Down Online) had a meeting with Jon Flatman on Tuesday to talk about putting the atmosphere back into Oakwell. We are going to be working on a few ideas together, it's not going to be a quick solution but I'm pretty sure the things we discussed will work a treat. If you and your lad want to get involved and have some ideas please get involved.
Drop me a message on here, I'll speak with him. Ultimately it's these kids that need to get on board, get it round their school mates and drum up some noise. No doubt the safe standing will help
Sorry but I couldn't disagree more a good atmosphere gives the players a lift and helps increase their performance
I agree. We did our bit sitting in the cold watching the opposition score 5 past us. That decent spell first half where we actually played the ball quickly to others in a red shirt had the fans going.Hopefully next game we have something to cheer!
Ok fair do's my friend. I was really suggesting that the reason fans get excited, noisy etc is because the team gets them in that mood. If games are flat, boring and lacking in passion and skill its difficult for fans to get enthused. There's a lack of noise partly I think because over a long time performances have not motivated the fans and therefore the fans come to the ground with little enthusiasm for a sing song. Fans have been nervous/unimpressed for a while and hence they find it difficult to get really excited. My take
If you go with the anticipation of being excited and entertained by your team you're up for it from the start and create a good atmosphere if you go knowing at best you'll scrape a win trough luck or a moment of brilliance but for most of the match you'll be frustrated by your team's performance you won't. Give us a team that plays exciting winning football and the atmosphere will improve give us turgid **** and it won't.
I said to my dad at the start that it was quiet. It felt like a really bad omen. Even during Hey Jude before kick off hardly any scarves were held up and not many sang. It was weird considering what gusto it was sang with last time and a ball hadn’t even been kicked.
Half the problem is (and forgive me for giving an opinion on why I can't be arsed these days) when we are in with a shout, come the end of the season, we all know (or should by now) that any half decent player is off. And we are rebuilding yet again. Year after year, season after season, it's a reset with and entirely new defence, or an entirely new midfield etc etc. It's hard to get going when you know half the team (or manager) will **** off at the end of it.
Boos at half time, I couldn't believe my ears. Granted we were poor the first 25 minutes but after that we looked ok. 2nd half dreadful. The amount of hammer Cole gets is bizarre. I'm not his biggest fan but the stick he receives is completely unjust. Cheering as he is subbed, after scoring 17 goals is mental. I understand that people were frustrated but its crackers, we are 4th in the league and lost 2 in about 20 games. A bloke walked out at 3 nil calling Collins a lovely person and to get out of the club. Weird.
It's a bit chicken or egg syndrome is it upto the fans to get the players going or vice versa. Very few clubs is the place jumping pre kick off,I think today there was a hang over from Tuesday when let's face it we were battered for the last 30mins. That's 120mins of football including today that we've conceded 7 and scored 1 hardly going to get the place bouncing. Also the style of football is more chess like rather than up and at em which is fine while we are winning but not easy to get behind in games like today.
Club and it's official's want to stop blaming the fans and take a look at their own behaviours. What we see, season after season is hardly just cause for celebration. Do well, sell off. Lack of reinvestment when the assets are sold. Club is in the entertainment industry, there is a clue there! Stop relying on fans blind faith and start to deliver.
I can't disagree with what you have said here and you are right. I think if I was a player thoigh I'd choose clubs whose fan base are loud and encouraging, which I've witnessed at many away grounds. I wish Oakwell could be as loud as when we are winning when we are not. As the song goes you only sing when your winning which is us at home. We shout yooouuu rrreeeeds with the announcer before kivk off then quiet til we score then we cherp up a bit.
I've noticed a distinct lack of effort from the club to get the atmosphere going before games this season. Budget cuts? The fan zone looked embarrassing today. Completely devoid of, well anything. Why? Because the volunteers who usually make it work weren't available. Well sorry but the club is a multi million pound business. Do it your bloody self and make it worthwhile. Absolutely nothing on the pitch prior to kick off, just a 'dj' somewhere in an empty west stand playing the same songs every week at 7 trillion decibels. I'm not sure what they can do but they need to do something, they just do. As said before, even ant and Dec have a warm up guy to get the crowd in the mood. Barnsley have zero. And I'm sure many other clubs are as bad as us at it, it isn't a Barnsley FC problem as such, it's a football problem where clubs are complacent. They've got fans money so it's enough and if fans aren't in the mood it's the fans fault. Other industries put effort in and don't demonstrate such complacency and if bfc and other similar clubs want an atmosphere then it's up to them to put effort in to generate it, not the paying customers, because while that's nice in an ideal world the evidence shows it doesn't happen.
Unbelievable cheering your top scorer off but I suppose he took over from victor and before him cavare and Thiam for the scapegoat.
The original Toby Tyke guy used to do a great job of getting the crowd going the one now just walks round and waves. But then again like I said in my earlier post the way the team plays has the biggest effect on the Atmosphere in the ground.
Agreed. Given the season so far, I was still watching at 3-0 down because I reckoned if any team could have bounced back from that it's us. Wasn't to be in the end, but there was plenty of time left and this team have shown that they've got it in them. I accept it's a bit hypocritical of me to sit here and say that as somebody who watches 99% of our matches on a computer screen at work, but this isn't Keith Hill era relegation Barnsley. There always might be something, even on a day that we served up that absolute nonsense.