Just had a debate with about 10 brexiteers who were all adamant that they won the referendum and then when a revote was demanded a couple of years later they won the second vote too. Literally all of them said the same thing. Now am I losing my memory or did that never happen?
In reality it didn’t happen. But it did happen in their minds. This obvious difference between reality and what goes on in their mind explains why they voted for Brexit in the first place.
There was no revote. I think Johnson's election campaign was run on a mandate to "get Brexit done" but it wasn't a revote.
Some really really stupid people seemed to think voting conservative at the 2029 election was voting for Brexit.
I may have imagined it but i vaguely recall a ‘poll’ where it claimed it reinforced the original vote. It wasn’t an official thing something in a paper or the likes.
Me too, it was a big thing online about it reinforcing what the public voted for. So I assume that's what they're on about...
Did these people really "win" though? I mean are any of them residents of Grimsby who had their primary industry obliterated, or a lorry driver who now has to wait 9 more hours in Kent, or a car factory worker who's been forced into redundancy due to their employers' suffocating trade barriers? Did they really win?
No there was never a 2nd referendum mate. They are deluded. The only other referendum was in the 1970s which had a substantial majority to stay in the EEC.
I live in hope that one day the country will finally realise what a disastrous decision it was, and take steps to reverse it in some way. hopefully in my lifetime, but I'm not holding my breath
If we tried to rejoin now we would not get anywhere near the original deal. The EU will have shelled out some serious dosh to divorce us and make up the difference after we bailed. In fact I'd not be surprised if they said no..
In fairness to them many people regarded the general election of 2019 to be pretty much solely about brexit. I can only assume that’s what they’re referring to.
That’s the saddest thing, that most of the damage is permanent - or would take generations to fix. But rejoining the Single Market and Customs Union would certainly help.
Totally agree with you, but sadly I can't see Keir touching it - even if he gets two terms. It would be like handing the Tories a lifebelt. I suspect closer relations and sectoral deals are probably the best we can hope for.
For that to happen we need to reform our electoral system so that no minority party intent on keeping us out can ever get into power - the minimum requirement for the EU to contemplate discussions with the UK. That's not going to happen in the next parliament but could happen in the one after, if Labour perform well enough to get a 2nd term - no chance if the Tories get back in. So by my reckoning, 10 years before we start talks and another 5 (at least) before rejoining, I'm 68 on saturday so like you, it could happen in my lifetime but not likely.
I think, as mentioned above, they were probably talking about the last election, where the media hounded Corbyn for suggesting he'd welcome a second referendum and then ultimately be really non committal about it. That for me was the main reason he lost the election, and could be the second vote they're thinking of.