Paula Vennels PO enquiry

The difference is that in evidence she implied strongly that she saw the Sub-postmasters/mistresses as the public face of the organisation she ran. Welby was just acting as an oil executive.

I am so glad that I am not a Christian.

the last expose by Mr. Maloney showed the attitude of Paula Vennels; after a 2014 item on the one show. She insults the victims and Mrs Hamilton personally.

Similarly Mark Davies PR Director when interviewed on Today in 2014 insulted them by referring to falsely convicted sub-postmasters/mistresses as “suffering lifestyle difficulties”.

these are two examples of the true attitude to the Post Office Executives and their 10 year plus cover-up (which they deny of course).

there needs to be prosecutions once the inquiry has reported but I am not going to hold my breath on this one.

 

They should make them, and waterboard officials, swim in turd filled waters.

 

Question, to those jumping on the fact she was a Christian, do you feel the same when you see a story about a Muslim who's committed a crime? Or a Hindu, or a Buddhist or a Jew?
I mean - see them as a <insert religion> first and a criminal second, or someone who's a criminal who happens to be <insert religion>? And do you think, "well they fit in with the <insert religion> hierarchy" as opposed to the "Christian hierarchy"?

 

Yes. All religions are full of decent people but at the mercy of and infested by charlatans, hypocrites and crooks.

 

Absolutely. I was brought up in the church. (Wesleyan) and have nothing but respect for those who have a moral compass alongside their religious background. (Regardless of religion) . Many of my relatives are still practicing Christian's and the vast majority I havent a bad word to say. But seeing as most of those and friends I know are Christian's. I used the 7 hail Mary's. As a get out clause. Many Christian's of whatever denomination are without doubt. Racist. Homophobic. Hypocrites. Bigots. Liars. You name it. I expect better.
SHE is a practicing Christian who applied for a post up the ladder. hence why the term was used. Nothing else. And all those other religions fall into the same category. They have some of the same bigots among their flock shall we say.
Not wanting to change the matter of the subject but you deserved a reply.

 

And all these observations may well be valid, I am not here to defend Christianity, I’m just wondering if she had been Jewish or Muslim whether it would have been used as a stick to beat her with in the same way?
And I know people love to say “oh yes , I hate all religions and would definitely slag off Islam or judaism in the same way.” But we all know that’s b@ llocks .

 

If she'd applied for a post in the hierarchy. Absolutely. Just as a practicing Christian. I'm not even sure it would have been mentioned tbh.
Bishop of london 2017 she was shortlisted for. Recommended by the Archbishop of Canterbury at the time. I dont know if the Archbishop is the same at present but Says questions need to be asked.
Edit. Same guy apparently.

 

Surely it's not her religion that's the pertinent point though. It's the fact that she's an ordained minister in that religion.

The comparison isn't with a practising Jew or Muslim, but with a Rabbi or Imam, in terms of her not putting into practice what she literally preaches.

 

Spot on mate.

 

Waterboardings a bit harsh but I see what you mean.

 

Exactly this.

 

I'm not so sure.

 

Yes.

 

Apparently she was Welby's choice for the job.

 

If there are to be prosecutions it will be even more interesting (for want of a better word) than this...now she has named and blamed the six individuals who were responsible for allegedly keeping all the bad news from her...they will I'm sure regain their memories in the Witness box.
The one I'd like to know about is this Jane MacLeod...the one currently in Australia and refusing to cooperate with the Enquiry...if this all comes to Court can she be forced to attend?
Edit....just found this explainer from The Law Society Gazette
https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/r...to-attend-post-office-inquiry/5119825.article

 

I have no issue if it comforts em. Eg they think they'll end up in this place called Heaven and they'll avoid Hell. But fundamentalists. No.

 

I think that Paula Vennels' religious persuasions/connections are irrelevant to her involvement in the Post Office scandal. That background might have added to her allure in the mind of recruiters when she was appointed to her role. But those connections have little bearing on her culpability for the events that took place. I think Sir Wyn Williams' questioning of her hinted as much. What has emerged is that she appeared to favour protecting the reputation of the Post Office (and hence her own personal interests) above doing right by those who were alleged to have committed wrongdoing, despite their protestations of innocence. Her interference with the prospectus for flotation of parts of the Royal Mail business signal further trouble for her down the line.

 

All I am saying is.
They say Practice what you preach.

Thou shall not bear false witness.
One of the 10 commandments.

She tried to save the post office from scandal. Then tries saving her skin. People have died. Lost their livings and homes, Imprisoned.
No-one is perfect. But.
I'd expect better from someone seeking to preach to others.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-to-deploy-80-detectives-for-criminal-inquiry