Sky Lounge closing

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  1. Gimson&theBarnsleys

    Gimson&theBarnsleys Well-Known Member

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    Might get a decent beer or two in there enall.
     
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    is sky lounge still owned by the same people who owned salt house? If so then it's pretty evident why the council wants them out isn't it?
     
  3. Gordon Owen

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    No, he used to own Salt House but had it took off him.
     
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    Yeah but did he run up the debts first before it was took off him? Or was the debts nothing to do with him?
     
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    It’s TIG, who are in liquidation.

    I think Cucina are part of the same thing - probably part of the reason BMBC were keen to get shut.

    Think Crisp owns ‘The Works’ though which is across from the Glass Works.
     
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    Just had a look on True North's Facebook page - from 31 May:

    Exciting News! We're Expanding!

    We are thrilled to announce the opening of our brand-new location in the centre of Barnsley! To help us bring our vision to life, we're on the lookout for dynamic individuals to join our team.

    Now Hiring:
    Experienced Assistant Manager
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    If you have a passion for excellent service and want to be part of a growing team, we'd love to hear from you!

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    A real shame for Cucina and their staff, I enjoyed going there a few times when I was up and it always seemed to be busy. That said, I'm excited to see a True North venue in the town centre.
     
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    To be fair, landlords usually know a lot more about this stuff than tenants, especially if it's a small business up against something like a council.

    There are plenty of clauses in our lease that I wish I didn't have, but seven years ago when I signed it I didn't know what they were going to be! Should have got a better solicitor etc, but that's something you can only fix the second time round, and plenty of businesses don't last that long.
     
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    So....If it is the same guy, Matthew Paul Crisp, Director of six recent companies according to Companies House.

    1. True Independent Group Limited Liquidated owing £428,000 including trade creditors and HMRC
    2. Cucina Club limited, dissolved in May 23 by companies house for not filing accounts/returns
    3. True Independent Trading group Limited, voluntary liquidation in 2023 owing £60,000 described as HMRC - Pay (which is possibly employees PAYE/NI).
    4. 3C UK Group Limited voluntary liquidation in 2023 owing £348,000 including trade creditors and HMRC
    5. Bar-ista Global limited dissolved in 2023 by companies house for not filing accounts/returns
    6. Flexiwork UK Limited still going but filing accounts that indicate dormant

    Historically six older companies between 2011 and 2015 all dissolved, 4 of them compulsorily by Companies House for not filing accounts/returns.

    Some may have mourned his passing from the Town Centre but I wouldn't trust him as far as I could chuck a grand piano. I doubt his creditors would either, saying nowt of him swerving the public purse.
    No lover of BMBC but they've got this one right
     
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    Mat Crisp shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near another business.
     
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    The place in Penistone had a fire, few times we went in it was always quiet.
     
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    That was the White Heart. I used to do some DJ work there, but I'd stopped a long while before the fire. Was put down to arson I think. I only read about it after the fact, so don't know anymore.
     
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    Cucina had a fire, was closed for a while then opened up again for a couple of months then closed again.
    Taken over by Will Rogers who owns Vault, Old Crown, New Inn ( Old white Hart )and Bridge Inn and Speakeasy bar next to Vault.
    White Hart might have had a fire but nothing to do with Cucina.
     
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    Potentially but not certain and depends on turn around times etc.
     
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    Yes I remember that mate
     
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    This was all I could find on the subject.

    https://www.barnsleychronicle.com/article/17993/pub-blaze-is-probed
     
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    So that’s two places in Penistone that have gone up in flames then been taken over by the same person.
     
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    He’s not got a great track record as he?…yet if you look on their facebook page it’s all BMBC fault
     
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    No, he never owned White Hart. Other poster is confused.
     
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    He plays pool in Penistone league. Not a likeable bloke. He owns The Works in town
     

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