What's VAR for then?

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  1. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

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    That was a penalty to Scotland. Referee didn't give it but it was, and clear from the replay, so why wasn't VAR brought in to play? I don't understand.
     
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    Knee through the back of the calf.

    Check complete.

    Good process.
     
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    Clear pull of the Hungarian shirt as well.
     
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    Penalty in my eyes as well tbh
     
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    Radio 5 suggesting possible offside?
     
  6. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

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    Definitely a suspicion of that, so give offside, but that's not what happened, the ref gave nowt and VAR didn't get involved.
     
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    Presumably the ref watching it back decided it wasn't a penalty, Hence the problem with VAR. Its only as good as the user allows it to be.
     
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    Presumably if it was offside, he gave the advantage to Hungary? Given they'd got possession.

    I'm not convinced it was a foul personally, Armstrong stepped across the Hungarian man rather than trying to play the ball. Both were grabbing each other.
     
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    Not a penalty for me, the striker throws his body across him in order to find an excuse to go down...if he'd put as much effort into trying to score....he might have.
     
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    Can't make my mind up with pen, think trying to turn made it look less like a pen.

    I can't see how their player got injured but that was checked
     
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    Objectively, you couldn't be more wrong. It's clearly a penalty.

    Maybe he's offside, so give that, but if it's not, it's a penalty. It just is.
     
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    I think it’s a pen but the shirt pull by the Striker probably gave VAR a reason not to change the on field decision
     
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    I wondered if that influenced the decision, but the contact to the calf was clearly before that.
     
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    Agreed. I wasn't sure at first, but the slow motion clearly shows contact to the back of the striker's leg. He had absolutely no reason to go down through on goal. Clear pen for me.
     
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    Tbh that's how I saw it. If they'd given the penalty though I wouldn't have been surprised but I've a feeling they'd not have scored it!
     
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    Yes but at that point isn't it just running? He wasn't making a challenge or anything he was simply running and legs touched, you could argue that the Scottish player was the one who caused the legs to touch by actually jumping into the path of the Hungarian defender
     
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    Hungary player was getting his shirt pulled at the same time - no penalty, easy decision.
     
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    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

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    I guess that's where a subjective interpretation of the laws comes in. I don't think the defender meant to bring him down, but he did, which probably prevented the Scotland player getting his shot away.
     
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    Wouldn't mind seeing it from different camera angles to be honest. Only seen it from two (I think) and neither were really clear. I suspect he was offside which is why they didn't do any checks at all that we know about
     
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    Quite possibly, but if that was the case it should have been made clear. VAR has definitely been far, far better in this tournament than before, which can only be a good thing. However, I'd still like to see more explanation of decisions, like there is in rugby. You might not always agree with a decision, but I think understanding the rationale behind them would go a long way to restoring some trust between the fans and the footballing authorities. For example, I'd have loved to hear the explanation why nobody deemed the challenge on Liam Kitching at Wembley a foul.
     
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