New Labour Govt take note please

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  1. KamikazeCo-Pilot

    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

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    ‘A deeply unfair and unequal country’: report warns of unprecedented far-right gains in UK https://www.theguardian.com/society...-warns-of-unprecedented-far-right-gains-in-uk

    Exactly why Starmer must not replicate Tory austerity. Timid social and economic policy will undermine Labour going forward, exacerbate discontent and fuel the far right. Its ok saying 'get the Tories out' but Labour has to do something or there will be serious unrest and political disconnect (in my opinion)
     
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    IMHO it's too late. Right across Europe and even in the good ole US of A the evil genie of fascism is out of the bottle.
    I'm an owd git so I'll probably escape the worst of it but I really, really fear for my kids and grandkids.
     
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    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

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    Yes its scary. People are complacent, none more so than mainstream politicians. I read Neil Kinnock urging Labour to be bolder about Reform the other day. I can actually see why people vote Reform. If one's life is really crap and there's no hope then voting for anything like the status quo is meaningless. Might as well vote for Farage who at least says something different... I think that's got something to do with it. All this talk about net zero, sensible economic policy and who's more honest and less corrupt doesn't matter if you've no food and can't clothe yourself properly and yet there are 'millions' of foreigners coming every year making things worse. I can see it.
     
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    A good portion of the electorate have just taken to making a protest vote (Brexit, Reform, Vote Leave) since the financial crisis 17 years ago. It’s everybody else’s fault.

    Labour just need to generate economic growth somehow, anyhow otherwise they’ll be the recipients of the next protest vote. If they need to raise taxes to service national debt then everyone loses
     
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    Rish! thinks he will still win.
     
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    100% with you there. I keep looking at places to move to, and the list is getting shorter all the time. They're either impossible to move to, or led by right-wing politics
     
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    I'm supposed to be relocating to Burgundy full-time from 2026. The knowledge that when the time comes I'll be probably be moving from a country with a (marginally) left of centre government to one with a far-right government is rather dampening my enthusiasm. Even Mrs Burgundy Red, who has already been French resident for 5 years, is considering her options.
     
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    Regretting leaving Bearsden now mate?
     
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    Too posh for the likes of me, Ian - I was only ever passing through.
     
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    Yep, France is completely struck off my list. Could be led by the National Front within weeks.
     
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    Or at least the National Front's new hairdo. (© Yard Act)
     
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    Seems strange to me that during a period of right wing growth world wide, we are about to elect a labour government? It’s clearly a sign of polarisation which inevitably leads to conflict. It’s very worrying.
     
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    Look at the global polycrisis, this decade alone. Major global conflict is only a matter of time IMO.
     
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    Do we live in turbulent times? Or are times always turbulent?
    I think it's the latter, every generation will feel the turbulence of their time, whether it's economics or conflict, to think of a world of true equality and ever lasting peace is to have the mind of a fiction novelist.
    In my 63 years I've seen and felt anxiety over economic downturn, war and many other things the human being creates, the dismay we're feeling now is nothing new, only a modern spin on very old human faults.
     
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    I think he might. Red rosette isn't promising any discernable changes. @KamikazeCo-Pilot is spot on. Starmer is holding Labour back.

    The opposition can't promise owt better so it might slip to default.

    As for this crap about reform being the opposition. They haven't even got candidates everywhere. The Tories aren't worried about reform. It isn't their votes they'll be pinching.

    Farage will be next Tory Prime-Minister.
     
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    Steady as she goes till SKS gets in. Then, the revolution!
     
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    The ground is very similar to the 1920's. We all know what happened then.

    I fear that either me, or my nephew & niece, (as I have no kids) could be living in the last days on this earth. This has nothing due to me believing in Armageddon as a religious concept, simply climate change, inequality of income, nuclear weapons and greed make it look very likely. Only takes one itchy trigger, to quote Declan McManus.

    I'm hoping we are at least a Championship Club when I melt away into the stratosphere.
     
  18. KamikazeCo-Pilot

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    Your hopes are very poor mate. When the world ends it would be fitting if BFC were European champions. Immortality.
     
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    If starmer gets in please get me on a plane to Rwanda all I can see is doom ,and Elton John said yesterday it will be great for cutting the red tape for artists to come to England, that finished me off i am contemplating cashing my pensions while they are still worth anything
     
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    If Starmer gets in all planes to Rwanda are cancelled. Sorry. :(
     

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