Anonymous Poll - General Election

I hope that when labour win later, there is no partying or over the top celebrations and they just get on with their jobs working for us and not being crap. As for reform and the tories, I'm going to enjoy their deserved demise.

 

The same issue re the Speaker faces the voters in Chorley this time around. Very surprised to see that the Greens have broken the convention by standing someone there, to be honest.

• Democracy for Chorley,Ben Holden-Crowther
• Speaker of the House of Commons,Lindsay Hoyle
• English Constitution Party,Graham Moore
• Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition,Martin Powell-Davies
• Green,Mark Tebbutt

 

Seems a really odd convention on the face of it though. If the residents in that constituency wanted to vote for another main party and didn't feel represented by the speaker, they are in essence denied their vote. It would make more sense for the speaker not to be a standing MP.

 

I agree in principle with that, but it's not a role that anyone is guaranteed to stay in. We saw fairly recently the SNP and Tories trying to get him removed as Speaker and, had that happened, he'd have returned to the Labour benches as a constituency MP while they elected someone else.

It would require some sort of constitutional fix to amend it to work 'sensibly' but, having faced the same situation that the Chorley voters do today, I'd be irritated about it regardless of any political affiliation.

 

Apparently the Tory MP around here is a good constituency mp who has helped many people but he still voted to allow kids to go hungry Christmas 2020 and has twice voted against holding the big businesses pumping s h I t into our rivers and seas to account, he supported both Johnson and Truss and always votes the way he is told to.

 

Yeah, similar situation in my constituency. The TheyWorkForYou data is a bit of a nonsense given that MPs are whipped into voting for things that they (possibly) don't believe in.

 

On the latter part, about exit polls/general polling... Its been an area I've had direct experience of, and it is amazing how quickly you can form a basis of opinion from the data. From a dataset of 1,000, you'd see the very accurate trend emerging within the first 100 responses.

The MRP is significantly different and I think this could be the first real test of how robust it is. This will be the first time new and independents can take swing from a challenger, where an incumbent is suffering from a 3 way attack and a possible collapse in die hards who may just stay at home.

There may also be a suppressing or enhancing effect from the breadth and volume of polls we've been subjected to. Ironic if polls impact the one poll that actually counts.

 

Same! Can’t wait to cross the Tories off as they lose their seats.

Saw this on Twitter, it’s too many pages for me to bother printing out but will use a smaller version on my laptop.



https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1DGig5Ck_a6Fx9bfqYvRGJXhTT-S4mttV?usp=sharing

 

My plan is.

A couple of pints tea time sesh. Catch a few zzzs between 7 and 10. Probably watch a bit of Argentina Ecuador game at 02.00. Go to bed at sixish for a few hours. Celebratory sesh tomorrow afternoon....

 

I quite clearly said that not all parties are the same. Do keep up dear. Parties to the left of the Tory/Lab duopoly say LibDems, SNP, Plaid, Greens, and even Sein Fein are all completely different offering various policy platforms. Parties to the Right such as reform UKIP and the DUP are all different. The two main parties are interchangeable in terms of policy both champion austerity are pro privatisation of the NHS and pro Brexit and anti immigration.

 

the first part of your sentence where you othered people. Maybe you genuinely don’t know you are doing it.

 

Where's the not voting option?

 

I'm in Norfolk as well. Safe Labour seat in South Norwich.

My brother in law lives up in North Norwich and ain't the brightest. He's voting Tory as Duncan is a good guy and they're all the same anyway.

 

Sorry but you are 100% wrong. I haven't posted personal insults. Don't try to slur my character.

 

They must all be good guys then

 

Some post I have seen today.

 

You're like a jilted lover with Labour.

Obviously the policies aren't the same. Thankfully the electorate understand that. Labour aren't perfect by any means but you lose a lot of credibility when you conflate a centrist manifesto with this Tory party.

 

Labour are committed to Tory spending plans. So £18 billion in cuts to non protected departments. Fiscal rules mean an ongoing commitment to austerity. Any half decent economist of any persuasion will tell you that. They are committed to NHS privatisation. They are committed to being anti EU. Committed to capping benefits for children but not for bankers. Freeport’s and SEZ they wholeheartedly support where there will be employment laws or minimum wage. some tinkering around the edges of course to please the plebs.

Luckily for Labour yes there are loads of thick people who will see the word change without interrogating exactly how they will achieve that change. Labour have been challenged across the political spectrum and failed to supply answers on economics.

Labour’s manifesto is to the right of Cameron in 2010 & 2015. Significantly to the right of Johnson on economics in 2019. That’s if we take them at face value about what their plans are. Leaks show they are considering a lighter version of Trussonomics to stimulate growth which is interesting.

 

Just to be clear, are you calling Labour voters thickos and plebs?

After getting on at another poster about personal insults?