You often forget the people behind the personality/brand

But especially Sunak & Hunt have come across as genuinely decent people in their speeches these last twelve hours.

 

Some of the Tories have been extremely magnanimous and refreshingly honest in their speeches. Others, such as Susan Hall and that bloke who was in the BBC studio early doors, have come across as just petty and bitter. And as for Liz Truss hiding then doing a runner.....

Unsurprisingly, all the Reform candidates came across as being thick bell-ends.

 

Not very circumspect were they.

 

That's true. Sometimes you have to split the person from the party. I'm happy Labour won where I am but the outgoing Tory mp Mark Eastwood wasn't too bad. He was a bit of a yes man on votes during the pandemic and the Penistone Line isn't as good as he could have made it. But he did a lot of charity work and brought millions of pounds to the area including over 300k to Shelley football club.

 

I was going to post something similar. Despite battle lines being drawn in the build up, it's refreshing to see we haven't gone full United States in how we deal with winning and losing.

 

I was impressed by the outgoing Robert Buckland and the incoming Heidi Alexander at the Swindon South count. Mutual respect and thorough decency, a pity more can't be like them.

 

Agreed, Buckland sounds like he's been an excellent local MP and came across as a very decent bloke. Heidi Alexander was also very impressive.

 

I disagree.

Sunak and Hunt have caused that much pain and misery to so many people, that one speech cannot erase this.

I hope they rot.

 

It's odd isn't it... Some tories, after they've lost power... Come across as reasonable and decent. Sunak, Hunt, Mordaunt and Buckley spoke with reason.

Yet when in power and especially when seeking re-election... They've lied to incredible degrees, some more than others. It makes you wonder if the adversarial nature of your politics is what pushes them to do what they do in power, the corruption of power itself or the pressure from advisers and influencers behind the scenes.

 

This with bells, whistles, balloons & ribbons.

 

Adversarial politics is the biggest problem we have, the mindset where anything proposed by the other side has to be rejected is bull****

 

Agree with this, it was very refreshing to watch. It's a shame the rest of the campaign wasn't conducted in the same way,

 

Agree. It's another argument in favour of PR. Coalition governments (in theory at least) are far more conducive to cooperation, compromise, and generally being far more respectful towards each other.

 

I just hope, given Sunak has lost his job, he can still get by on his remaining £650million.

 

******* hell, is Sky that expensive nowadays?

 

I think first past the post elections does this - if we had Proportional Representation then parties would have to work with each other much more.

Less adversarial and more representative of the whole country and instead of the ne party spending all it's time and energy undoing the work of the previous administration it would build on and modify that work.

 

Tbf it'll be more now. He'll have made a stack gambling on the result.

 

What a shame they didn’t try being decent people during the last 5 years

 

By all accounts the outgoing MP where I am is well-liked, he housed a Ukrainian family for a while, runs marathons for charity and was apparently a good constituency MP. He was also an unashamed self-publicist who grasped any opportunity to sell himself as a great bloke, he voted to let the poorest kids go hungry at Christmas, fully supported the Rwanda farce, fully supported Brexit and despite representing a coastline constituency with many chalk rivers did absolutely nothing to oppose the dumping of raw sewage by the water companies. So yeah, decent bloke - **** him.

 

In an ideal world that could be the case. But if we look at the coalition years and even Mays minority govt, the British public didn't like sharing power. I'm also not sure how we'd get a kinder more amicable politics with 100+ reform MPs. I think that would be toxic beyond belief.