Charlotte Dujardin

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  1. dreamboy3000

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    I expected she might have lashed out once with her hand in a moment of madness. Instead it's much worse. It should be career over but it won't be, much like it wasn't for Gordon Elliott when he sat on a dead horse.

     
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    Wonder if this has the same outrage as the Grand National ever year? With it being ‘Dressage’ and full of Tory’s and Toffs I suspect not…..
     
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    Upper class tosspot, she should be publicly whipped, she's a disgrace, every medal/trophy she's ever won should be taken away.
     
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    I suspect this may call the whole of the 'sport' of Dressage into question, because this looks like a systematic way of training the horses involved. It is totally different from racing, in my view.
     
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    Attended a comprehensive/academy. But don't worry about the facts!
     
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    Can't even abuse an animal nowadays because of woke.
     
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    Out of character my ar$e. Only thing she’s ashamed of is being caught.
     
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    Branded forever, came out with the usual, ' that's not how I train my horses' probs forgot to add 'when somebody is videoing me'
     
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    Dressage isn’t full of Tories and toffs, there are lots of people who enjoy it who are nothing like that. It’s about a partnership between a horse and a rider and
    what she’s done is not a systematic way of training dressage horses. One bad apple shouldn’t damn an entire sport.
     
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    Haha ok
     
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    No, this was not a wider dressage issue I believe. It was a private one to one riding lesson and it was the clients horse that was hit.
     
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    Its horrible to see the reaction of the horse. Fear. Pain. I've always hated dressage, purely because of the truly unnatural behaviour horses are forced to perform. Its pretty evident down the years when you see horses nerved and shaking that the means of control to train that performance cannot have all come from kindness and encouragement.

    But let's be fair, overall human society doesn't have a great record of protecting animal life, whether wilfully or through ignorance.
     
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    The entire equine industry is full of this. I worked in the charity sector for many years. It's a highly complicated issue that I have mixed feelings on.

    First and foremost she isn't hurting that horse, she's irritating it. Does that make it ok? Absolutely not but I've been whipped full whack by one of those schooling whips and it stings at worst.

    This is a standard way of training horses to deliver these kind of steps. Everyone competing in this Olympics will have done that and much worse.

    The real question is why we feel the need to force this behaviour on animals in the first place. It's not actually the whipping that's a concern. It's the excessive strain put on their bodies by competing at top level.

    We took on many ex competition horses including some of Charlotte's. By 15 years old they all had back and leg issues and not much quality of life.

    I stand firmly against this kind of equestrian sport but not because of whipping which looks much worse than it is. It's the physical strain and psychological abuse which is the real concern
     
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    Joking aside it was to demonstrate how hard a whip can be used to correct a behaviour without hurting the animal.

    I regularly used solid whips across the chest and face of horses in training for safety reasons. Our world was all about rehoming rescued horses. This could not be done safely if they did not respect people. The first time you work with semi feral or abused horses they inevitably would try to go straight over the top of you and trample you. If that behaviour couldn't be stemmed they would have to be put to sleep.

    In our world you had to be firm to teach them to respect the whip. After that you usually never needed to touch them again. My point is there is context and value to whip use but it comes down to what you're trying to achieve and whether it benefits you or the horse.
     
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    Completely understand, makes perfect sense.







    But what was the gimp mask used for?
     
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    So I couldn't be identified in videos released 4 years later
     
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    As a meat eater I can't say much about her whipping a horse, don't jockeys thrash their steeds? seems like someone with an axe to grind against her has released it. Haven't a clue how the animals I eat are kept and slaughtered apart from the red tractor logo or free range sticker.
     
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    Wonder how many times she has done this and it's not been filmed.
     
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    Horrifically is the answer, I'm afraid.
     
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