Anyone else seen the alternative angle of the police airport incident?

Regardless of who did what. And emotions running high. Anyone acting in that kind of behaviour would be absolutely banged up for gbh. Or are Joe public to be forgiven for such an extreme act of violence cos emotions are running high. Lock the perpetrators up for abh/gbh and the copper.
No-one is defending the perpetrators as far as I can tell. And those that seek revenge. Lock them feckers up n'all. Building more prisons is a priority. I've said b4. Time off for good behaviour is ******. Make the punishment fit the crime (fixed) and increase time for non compliance.

 

We're never going to agree, if police had been tougher in harehills they would have been seen running. This scroat has set about armed police and then got a reaction from one who at the end of the day is only human. No sympathy from me I've never been kicked by a copper in the airport although I've never started punching coppers either... strange that.

 

Everyone saying subdued… yes he’d been tasered, but he was getting back up. He was clearly more handy than the police, The other officers appeared incapacitated or dealing with the others. In seconds he had to take an action to make sure that the perpetrators was subdued before he got up. The speed of the attack is very quick. It’s not about being a thug. And he was protecting himself and the public.

Too many people on here don’t seem to understand the situation at all given both videos.

 

It's called virtue signalling by the usual suspects.

I'd call them soft lovely person*s but I'm sure there is a more polite way of describing them.

 

Yes people do understand, the guy who was kicked in the head was anlready incapacitated and was being restrained. The handcuffs would’ve been on before he comes around. Like any normal person, I hope the aggressors get the full weight of the law thrown at them, and well, the Policeman who kicked and stamped on him, is basically not doing the job he’s trained to do. No excuses I’m afraid.

 

My two pennerth for what it’s worth is after seeing the head kicking incident I was horrified, but when I saw what happened previously, Rightly or wrongly,I’m glad he did it.

 

Noone understands the situation you included. However, the rules on use of excessive or lethal force by police are crystal clear. There must be a perceived, immediate threat to police or public lives to use the level of force he did.

Unless he believes that guy was holding a weapon or detonator he has crossed a line that will have consequences. Maybe it will turn out that's the case. I don't know... But why exactly an armed terrorist was wandering around an airport picking fist fights is an interesting question if so.

 

Do you include yourself in that. I reckon a full investigation is required. But not pussyfooting around to appease one side or the other, for fear of retribution. Those that protest having virtually no idea of what started or who started the incident. It had obviously built up beforehand. Should hang their heads in shame. Regardless. Something has to be done. I don't have the answers. But nowt should make people live in fear.

 

No he wasn’t, his mum was stood over him and he was just getting up…

Watch again at normal speed.

 

He was trying to get up. He was clearly a danger so needed to be subdued. He wasn’t armed, but his hand combat was enough to pose a threat to public and police as already seen.

 

Watch the original video again and look at his legs... they are dead straight and tense. He was completely planking at the point of the kick and stamp.. not trying to get up in any way shape or form. The effects of the tazer wear off a few seconds later by which point another officer is doing the sensible thing of handcuffing him.

And I didn't say threat I said danger to life. I dont mean your definition I mean the legal definition that the police must abide by in order to use lethal or excessive force. That's not "he might get up and throw more punches" it is whether he is potentially armed with a dangerous weapon or device.

 

Now, I've been shoved against a wall by a policeman just for the audacity of walking past him as I got off a train with other football fans.
I've been in a group of fans that were waiting quietly to leave a football ground when the police dog handlers let the dogs suddenly go to the full extent of their leash and get at said fans.
I've been bitten by a police dog as I was walking past it in a tunnel where I couldn't have walked any further away from it.
Never once in my life have I started trouble, got into a fight, abused anybody or acted threateningly.
And yet see above.
Our police force is littered with individuals who are just as thuggish as the cretins who are on the wrong side of the law.
Defending the actions of this policeman regardless of provocation is just bizarre.
In effect it's giving the freedom to act how they want with no constraints.

 

Spot on. The fact you even have to point this out is depressing.
If you've gone through life as a football fan and not seen abuse, assault, provocation and corruption from Police Officers then I would suggest you need to get out more.

 

Yes you’re both right, let’s ban all police forces as they are clearly all scum. Instead let’s just have a set guidance for everyone to follow.

 

Or, you could attempt to engage in debate in a rational manner?

 

I engaged in debate. We have differing opinions. So no point continuing. People love to jump on the authority figure. The police have an impossible job, made even worse when people who have never been in a position of authority or a situation like this. Condemn all their actions because they got close to a police dog at a match one time.

 

Just to say how much I agree with you: absolutely no point in continuing any dialogue. Cheerio.

 

Absolutely, enjoy your day.

 

It's an incredibly slippery slope as a country if we're just allowing police to boot and stamp people who are already restrained and lying on the floor.

I'm sorry but if you think he's in a position to cause a threat from that position or you feel like he's getting back up, you are the problem in this scenario.

It's not the polices job to give out justice where they see fit, if you've ever watched Batman that's the problem rational people have with him. You can't catch the criminals and throw your own justice at them. The people involved initially if simply restrained, arrested and tried would've got lengthy prison sentences and that would've been justice served.

Instead we've got the added stipulation that the policeman also needs disciplinary action and deservedly so.

 

I’m sorry but if you can’t understand that people have different opinions to you…. Then you are the problem. I do not believe he was restrained at the point you said he was… unless you count his mum knelt by him. The police officer was not giving out justice he was attempting to stop the asssilant from getting up and continuing the beating, our opinions are opposite. I’m happy that you think this scenario is an open and shut case based on the slow motion VAR conclusion that you have come to. I’m happy with my own conclusion. Where Batman came from I’ll never know….