Why did they announce that there had been racist chanting from the ponty end?

Yes the point I was trying to make was if someone did a nazi salute to me I would t be offended like a Jewish person I wouldn't lose and sleep over it. Same when people sing the **** the pope I don't get offended just think your abit simple. But to a Catholic it would be offence same as if we sang **** Allah etc.

 

The difference is that I can choose to ignore little timmy and his wonderful song can't I? Scroll on, turn the TV over, not go see him in concert. When I'm at a Barnsley match I go to watch the footy, I don't want to sit listening to the bigoted knuckle draggers and their hilarious chants, but I can't scroll past them or change the channel can I? I have to either sit there and listen to it or walk out and stop going to the football because it makes me feel sick.

 

Luckily for me (and other sat close by) we can't tell what they are singing so wouldn't know if it was offensive or not.

 

The Pope isn't at Oakwell most match days though, so why bring it to Oakwell? Utterly pointless. Bring chants that are pro BFC.

 

I remember the bamboo diaby song grown men with kids on there shoulders in concourse at Hillsborough singing about a blokes chopper. Wasnt for me found it very cringy tbh but wasn't offended.

 

Dont forget most people in this country dont believe in a god. As the be all. And his existence at all is as much unlikely as not. Religious beliefs are not for me and should have no hold over how we should govern
Makes me weep when pricks like Trump quote god for votes. As for fk Mohammed or Krishna or the Pope as gods servant or even King Charles as the head of the C of E supposedly. something impossible to prove. What are you actually saying it to. If you dont believe. Each to their own, I have no bias to any religion as sorry to say I'm an agnostic.

A 2022 study by King's College London found that 49% of the UK population believed in God, down from 75% in 1981. The study also found that 72% of the UK public believe that religious authorities should not interpret the laws in a democracy. Glad to say we can say that in this country at least

As previously said. A nazi salute is an insult to humanity. And people are still around who fought em. Or born in that era.

 

Did you mean Antagonistic

 

Nice point P. lol..

 

I'm all for that mate. But songs don't die overnight and all the worse for it. (Some of em anyway) I find the your dads a scab. Your dads a lovely person. I'd rather be a p--i. Distatesteful. At best. But sadly are still around (apart from the last. Not heard that for a while) and possibly will be for the foreseeable. other than the last. Clearly racist.

 

For me context is everything.

Tim Minchin singing
"There are other ******* songs, and there are other ******* ways. I'll be a religious apologist on other ******* days, but the fact remains, if you protect a single kiddie ****** then pope or prince or plumber, you're a ******* ************. **** the mother ******, **** the motherfucking pope"
Is extremely valid because the context is that the pope covered up for paedophiles so it's right to call him out.

Singing "**** the pope and the IRA" randomly at a football match has absolutely no validity as the context is simply "the fighting in Ireland was largely religious so **** the catholics"

Still no idea what the Barry cotter song is supposed to be though, never heard it

 

The BC song went like this... As I heard whilst at Fleetwood last season

20 grand 20 grand Barry cotter
20 grand 20 grand I say
20 grand 20 grand Barry Cotter
And we saved him from the IRA


Unsure if it remains that or has been slightly altered in anyway, but that's what was sang at Fleetwood.