The ConLAB government..

So there should be an individual rule for Rachel Reeves?

 

Frowned upon by folk with a bit more balance in their opinions.

 

No but I don't think a household pulling in over 300k a year need tax payers help heating their homes do you?

 

I think she is entitled to claim whatever any other MP can. Or should she be penalised for doing well? I'm very sure there are many Tory MP's earning much more who still claim.

 

She can and no doubt tory and Labour mps will all be claiming there, very similar. But if your scrapping winter fuel leaving many pensioners with a choice of heating or eating to then be claiming to heat your home when your bringing in so much doesn't look good does it.

 

For me it is utterly irrelevant. RR is paid to make tough decisions and her own circumstances do not - and should not - come into it. Nor do I think a £300 allowance is make or break for anyone when the triple lock increase will outstrip the amount of this untargeted benefit.

 

Not really. There are plenty of rose tinted glasses wearing Labour folk on here. Every single politician or political party are open to criticism not just the Tories no matter how crap they were.
Labour aren't reight popular TBH. If a GE was called today, 100% guarantee it would be touch and go for anything but a hung parliament.

I find it laughable that all this taking freebies etc, tax increases, winter fuel alowance decision pretty much get accepted by many on here. If it had been the Tories doing this, we would have seen an absolute board meltdown.

Comments about them all being the same get slammed on here, but lets face it, for a party with a leader who seems to being doing his best to introduce policy and behaviour he previously was ultra critical of, and vowed to change things, it's open season.

Tories failed and were corrupt, it shouldn't have been hard to raise the standards but Sir Keir and his front bench are making it look very difficult indeed.

 

I knew you would defend it but tax payers shouldn't be paying to heat the home or 2nd home of anyone who's household brings in over 300k.

 

Ah, so you're a socialist now?

 

that argument ( not just from you) really pisses me off , that rise isn’t until after the winter and also that is the agreed rise so deducting £300 quid from it then devalues said rise.

 

Scrap winter fuel, Freeze the pensioner's then raise inheritance tax in October double bubble

 

And it follows on from last year's triple lock rise. That was fairly generous, as I recall. Younger, less well-off folk raising families or trying to pay mortgages have more of my sympathy at the moment.

 

I'd bring in Teresa May's social care reforms, as well.

 

What about the pensioners still paying mortgages or ridiculous rents then ?

 

Two houses pretty much lived in full time is still a bit of a stretch on £300k, especially if one of them is in London. And the rules have to be the same for everybody - not sure it would be possible for a single person, even on an MP's wage!

I don't really have a problem with MPs from outside the South East being able to claim expenses to run a second home in London - it's a legitimate work cost until we come into the 21st century and modernise working practices. I would change the rules to mean that it had to be rented rather than owned though. Or the government could keep a bank of houses and flats from which MPs could choose.

 

Almost like 27% of pensioners being millionaires

 

Great fishing attempt of course no one genuinely left voted for Starmer.

 

Great to see you stand by your guy has he starves kids and freezes pensioners. Of course 300 quid is a lot to some people. It’s incredibly arrogant to think otherwise.

 

How much have Tory MPs claimed to heat their homes in the last five years?

 

You can be anti Labour - but if you have those figures to hand, could you quote them for the other parties and also where they came from?

Just so we can see for ourselves and compare?

Saying Labour have claimed that much to heat second homes has no context if you don’t say what the other major party claimed in the same period.