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  1. Sup

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    You say that but exeter (I may have got the wrong club) say that the increased revenue from the sky deal for this year is worth less than 280 season tickets which imo is an absolutely bonkers deal to agree to whe you take into account the long-term drop in ticket sales, shirt sales, refreshment sales etc that it will cause.

    I also think that far from growing the brand it will actually significantly weaken the brand of the smaller clubs who are most vulnerable.
    Previously over a million people tuned in each week to watch football focus and soccer Saturday which mentioned the smaller clubs whenever they scored. Now the match has (for example) been squirrelled away on the red button on a Friday night where it has to compete with 10 other games for a football fans attention and the world of Friday night entertainment for everyone elses. Who, other than hardcore Exeter fans, is going to choose to watch one of their matches? Absolutely nobody. They'll be playing games in empty stadiums and sky will be broadcasting to a handful of fans.
    Small clubs will find they get zero exposure to anyone other than their own hardcore supporters who are now watching from at home instead of in the grounds. It's an absolutely massive own goal for football and will see clubs go under.
     
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    The club is getting a bit more from Sky. Unfortunately game times are fecking up people actually turning up. The flaccid atmosphere is not helping the team. This is an attempt to reverse that & give season ticket holders something. I can't knock the gesture TBH.

    What result it has is questionable, if our players don't turn up, it will not work well. Let's hope we can turn a corner & find a winning starting lineup. We have some decent players TBH.
     
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    Let’s hope we can get a corner !!
     
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    The gesture is good but the sky deal is a serious error for most clubs. Its further evidence of corporates actually taking the game away from its roots whilst pretending to support clubs with cash. Clever.
     
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    If only I had two mates
     
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    We've had a fair few. Early weeks the Hourihane effect seemed to be working. A bunch of things have gone wrong, poor balls, poor strikers & no one following in. What has really happened with Donovan Pines? Jesus? Cosgrove, well, yes he's gonna be off side or giving the defending side a free kick, Most corners hit the first man. This is if we get in the other teams half. We've not really done much of that recently. TBH, we have tried. But we've fallen massively short. The manager needs to find a team. Time is running out. Not my call. Just a refection on other people's views. I don't share them. Give him more time, but we need a shape. x
     
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    If you did before the game, you probably wouldn’t after.
     
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    Brilliant gesture, hope the team show up, and many enjoy it and return
     
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    I see no relevance in that at all tbh. Attendances rise and fall on performances/Standings and are a more accurate indication. Stadium capacities v %full is irrelevant to a degree. Most of those capacities fall below ours, so naturally if doing well the fuller they seem.
    Take Stockport .
    Capacity less than half ours. Based on season ticket holders alone. We would register more than 80%.
    As it is, average attendance wise 20% would be locked out. Our average 3k above theirs. And they are on a bit of a roll over the last couple of seasons.
    Our average gates are 5th highest in the league. To date.
     
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    I think the dodgy stick created armchair fans first mate
     
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    I hope to god someone remembers to stick the kettle on! They’ll have ‘ran out of hot water’ an hour before kick off.
     
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    The Covid saga did that. It got us used to watching matches on a computer screen and many found that wasn’t such a terrible idea.
     
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    Those figures are irrelevant. For one the capacity is no longer 24,000 so the 52% figure is wrong and if the capacity was reduced to 13,000 like Wrexham we'd be 99% full. The more important fact is that we're one of the top 6 supported clubs in the Division
     
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    Barely half full our ground this season.

     
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    See @Simon De Montforte post. Seems like this is erroneous
     
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    It’s a purposeful initiative and to be applauded.

    With so many games on TV, the steep cost of a matchday ticket and the dreadful performances on show, it’s a tough sell.
     
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    That's interesting about Exeter. Can I ask where you saw that @SuperTyke ?
     
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    Only improved performances will increase attendances though.
     
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    I've just checked and as usual I got it wrong, it was Carlisle not Exeter (geographically i couldn't be further away could I).

    It's on their website and the quote is here

    Chief executive Nigel Clibbens said: “The new deal is 60% bigger than the previous deal which means the club will gain financially.
    “At the same time however, domestic streaming via iFollow will end and the club will lose that income. In 2022/23 in League Two, the club earned around £164k from UK streaming and in 2023/24 in League One, this will be even bigger.
    “In 2024/25, this will fall to zero. The gain from the TV deal is around £300k per season in League Two, so overall we are better off by around £130k per year in League Two"


    Thats not where I saw it originally but I've just found it, the one I saw originally broke down the exact figure and then used the full priced adult season ticket price to work out how many lost ticket holders it equated to but as i say i cant find that page in my history so maybe i was at work when i saw it.
     
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