US Election

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by mansfield_red, Oct 30, 2024.

  1. kestyke

    kestyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2005
    Messages:
    3,362
    Likes Received:
    1,637
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    In the chestnut tree cafe, waiting
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Time to cosy up to the Chinese, we won't get any favours from these Yank turds now.
     
  2. casual tyke

    casual tyke Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2011
    Messages:
    790
    Likes Received:
    114
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Judging by this chart, Biden definitely shouldn't have stood down. The Democrats would have strolled to victory if he had hung around with him being clearly the most popular presidential candidate in recent years.
     

    Attached Files:

  3. Abruzzo Red

    Abruzzo Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2013
    Messages:
    5,123
    Likes Received:
    7,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired - Formerly Gosport Tyke, 2013 - 2022
    Location:
    Vestea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    SuperTyke likes this.
  4. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    15,108
    Likes Received:
    18,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Rod Liddle is an odious shapeshifter… perhaps best characterised by saying he is accurately living his true self, a stereotypical millwall fan.
     
    Abruzzo Red likes this.
  5. HowMuch!

    HowMuch! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2017
    Messages:
    1,690
    Likes Received:
    707
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    We already have done . Cheap Chinese imported steel has led to the demise of UK steel production over many years .
    Plus governments bailing the chinese/indians out whilst ruining the industry beggars belief .
    The cost of that should have been taken out of foreign aid for those countries .
     
    Wuz1964, wakeyred and Spuggy like this.
  6. BarnsleyReds

    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    11,790
    Likes Received:
    13,878
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    XenForo - Xenith Reds
    2020 was just an outlier in terms of turnout. It was a lot easier to drive turnout against trump while he was in office, compared to this year. Coupled with the fact that it was impossible to ignore politics due to Covid. Biden would have done even worse than Kamala this year. His approval ratings are shockingly bad. So much so that I think his approval rating massively hurt Kamala too just by association.
     
    fitzytyke and Red Rob like this.
  7. Tyke The Tree-Frog

    Tyke The Tree-Frog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    9,685
    Likes Received:
    12,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Yeah, I think it's an insult to Kamala to suggest Biden would have done better, and go as far as saying he'd win - he wouldn't. After that disastrous debate, he was done, it was over (even though they should have admitted it long before that debate), but they did it wrong. Should have had a primary.
     
    KingBenny92 likes this.
  8. Ses

    Sestren Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    4,767
    Likes Received:
    4,759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Behave yourself. Even if we assume a fixed election last time around, are you seriously suggesting that the international conspiracy couldn't have come up with anybody better to bring in the new world order than Joe Biden?

    And what went wrong this time? If they can make sure elections turn out how they want, did they just decide to sit this one out?
     
  9. Tyke The Tree-Frog

    Tyke The Tree-Frog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    9,685
    Likes Received:
    12,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    "Too big to rig".... duh..!
     
  10. KamikazeCo-Pilot

    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2011
    Messages:
    5,660
    Likes Received:
    8,165
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Sunny Darton
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I think this is the crux of it. I personally find Trump a disgusting, repulsive person on a few levels but he tapped into peoples genuine fears about their standard of living and levels of immigration. Many are struggling, just like here. Its all well and good wanting Harris to have won, like I did, but really she and the Democrats didn't reach people in the same way as Trump. Concerns about female rights are good, concerns about democracy are good but they dont resonate in the same way as bread and butter issues do. Harris said little about the economy and little about immigration. She was also thrown into the ring too late which also didn't give her enough time to think through any policies. She did quite well in the circumstances I suppose but as you've said, if large swathes of people feel their day-to-day lives are crap they'll look around for something else. Authoritarians/fascists/'strong men' lap this up all day long. Trump has done very well.
     
  11. sol

    solarized Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    Messages:
    189
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    28
    no it isnt
     
  12. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2012
    Messages:
    8,978
    Likes Received:
    15,316
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Hi @KingBenny92

    You didn't respond to the evidence of Trump being racist.

    Just making sure you didn't miss it.

    Cheers.
     
    DannyWilsonLovechild likes this.
  13. Red

    Red Rob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2021
    Messages:
    685
    Likes Received:
    1,405
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    London
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    You look at any country which seems to have its shìt together globally and you'll find they all have one thing in common - proportional representation.
     
    Brush likes this.
  14. sol

    solarized Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    Messages:
    189
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    28
    I hope for some on here Donovan Pines isnt a Trump supporter...would it matter?
     
    KingBenny92 and wakeyred like this.
  15. Bossman

    Bossman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    14,796
    Likes Received:
    13,633
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Carlton
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Nope, I don’t hate Trump supporters (though given his history I’ll never understand why you would be) I just hate Trump.
     
    jjsmiff and Abruzzo Red like this.
  16. wak

    wakeyred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    9,655
    Likes Received:
    8,393
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    the clues in my imaginative online moniker
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I think exit polls were tracking at around 45% of people saying they felt poorer then before the last election, only around 20% said they felt better off, pretty much every incumbent government which was in charge during the inflation spike has since lost power. Couple that with the nonsense over Biden and Harris being anointed 100 days before the election and it was always an uphill battle, that's before you look at the issues on illegal immigration and the culture wars. Again, its worth remembering 1/3 of all BAME voters voted for Trump, the so-called controversy over puerto rico - the majority of Latino voters voted trump and puerto rico itself elected a Republican Governor.
     
  17. Sco

    Scoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    9,030
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The interface between business and technology
    Location:
    Brampton by the Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Yet, Biden's approval ratings beat Trumps on every metric.

    upload_2024-11-7_9-17-20.png
     
  18. Sco

    Scoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    9,030
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The interface between business and technology
    Location:
    Brampton by the Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    "Latinos" is a big group. Its like saying "Asians" here. There is a big difference between Cubans, Venezuelans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, etc., just like there is a big difference between people from India, Pakistan, Vietnam and China.

    A politician here who came out and said India was a dump might attract voters from Pakistan and Bangladesh - and if he praised it could repel voters from China.
     
  19. Tyke The Tree-Frog

    Tyke The Tree-Frog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    9,685
    Likes Received:
    12,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Ultimately, 76% of the American public believed the country was going in the wrong direction - it was always going to be an uphill battle, especially by someone who got soundly rejected in the 2020 primaries and has such a low approval rating. Huge error from the dems and all we can do is hope it won't be as disastrous as some fear.
     
  20. Brush

    Brush Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    16,437
    Likes Received:
    15,336
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Ex-IT professional
    Location:
    Swadlincote, South Derbyshire
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Sadly, they are mate.
     

Share This Page