Anybody worried?

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  1. sapphire red

    sapphire red Active Member

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    Based on previous re-wording from the kremlin anybody know what these new rockets might contain?
     
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    Not in the slightest worried....no one dare go nuclear.
     
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    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. They can’t win the war they’re currently in with the tiny Ukraine, they can’t afford to be directly attacking other countries with the backlash that would bring.
     
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    Nope, it would be M.A.D.
     
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    judith charmers Well-Known Member

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    What a mess this worlds in at the minute……a said to my dad the other week that things would be far better if everyone stopped in there own lane
     
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    No.

    I suppose you weren’t around in the 60s/70s? May Day parades when the Russians brought out them big rockets so we knew what could happen. Or the leaflets we got through the door telling us to stock up on tinned food, whitewash the windows and tag any dead family members before placing them outside.

    I survived that ballax. I can survive this.
     
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    The sanctions imposed on Russia are starting to bite hard, should the war in Ukraine continue through to the end of 2025 the Russian economy and its federal reserves will be in serious trouble.
    The Russian army hast lost somewhere in the region of 600k casualties, Putin dare not mass conscript after the Afghan war of the 70s/80s
    There's a race at the moment with Biden trying to get as many arms into Ukraine before the arrival of Trump and Putin trying to get the Kursk region back to be in a stronger negotiating position.
    I can't see Trump supporting Zelenski with billions and billions unless of course its to American advantage and that money isn't given to Ukraine but put back into the U.S in the form of arms manufacture etc.
    Putin is throwing everything at this now and trying to win the Physiological war but his only realistic way out now is to escalute with a view to getting stronger bargaining powers, he wouldn't be so stupid at this point to attack a Nato country he'd be wiped off the map.
     
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    No I don't give a rats knackers!. :eek:
    If it happens, then it happens, nowt we can do about it!.
     
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    I am no conspiracy theorist, far from it. But…. what if Zelenski is in cahoots with Putin and this travelling around the world, meeting nations’ leaders with his wish list for arms is just a ploy to weaken other nations?
    Also, he is very public about where he is visiting and when which, with Russian intelligence, makes him a potential sitting duck so why hasn’t he had a brush with Novichoc or a hit man?
    As I say, I am not into conspiracies and folk will label me barmy for this thought. But I am just a bit suspicious that the Ukraine are openly dipping into the rest of the world’s arms, with full blessing… I don’t know, I just think there could be something very corrupt underlying here.
     
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    Because killing hundreds of thousands of people, blowing each country to bits, severely weakening yourself militarily and economically crippling yourself would be a strange way to go about things for handouts and weaken other nations whilst severely weakening yourself in the process.

    Sorry to say but that's nonsensical
     
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    I'm with the No camp in this.
    With the disclaimer that the whole world thought Germany wouldn't start a second world war.

    It takes just one M.A.D bsatrad
     
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    Taking out Zelenski would automatically ignite WW3. I honestly don't think Putin wants that. Americas interests in Ukraine are entirely their own, BlackRock has been given the contracts to rebuild it in the wake of the war,whenever it finishes. And Ukraine happily sits on trillions of dollars worth of natural minerals and resources that the US would love to give anyone "freedom and democracy" for. I imagine Putin wants those same resources. So for all Putin's talk regarding NATO's expansion eastward (which is true), and suggesting that large swaithes of Ukraine wish to be Russian again, and Biden etc al's lamentations on how they think Putin is crazy and we must defend Ukraine "because it's the right thing to do", the truth of it is that these two superpowers want control of Ukraine's natural resources and is caught in some macarbe tug-of-war. Just my opinion of course.
     
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    For a start, killing Zelenskyy on another country’s soil would instantly cause that country, and others, to actively fight with Ukraine. As I said above, Russia is doing terribly in the war they’re already in, the absolute last thing they need is for others to join in against them. The best they can hope for is to scare ours and US’s citizens into asking our governments to stop helping. I’m not doing his job for him!
     
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    If it happens we'll probably av 20mins max, enjoy it. Were all going to die an nobody knows when. Millions will be saved on cremations.
     
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    Could imagine us being 4- 0 up at home and just won a penalty in the 90th min when the big mushroom cloud rises towards Monk Bretton, folk in ESL lower jump up thinking flames are back on, bart reeght
     
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    Always look on the bright side of life.
     
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    I've pretty much come round to this way of thinking. I used to worry about it a bit (Nuclear War) but then I kind of realised that in the event of one there's probably only a (relatively speaking) handful of folk likely to survive and I'm unlikely to be one of them. My experience will be short, sharp and terminal. Those left behind will have to deal with nuclear winter, lack of food, power etc and there being little if anything left worth living for beyond interminable struggle.

    That said, I don't think even the maddest of the current bunch of world leaders is stupid enough to press the button. Or at least they have advisers who are savvy enough not to allow it.
     
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