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Can we put the NIC into perspective. When big companies are complaining about the rise in contributions it’s worth noting that Tescos profits for this FY year are expected to reach £2.9 billion and the annual rise in NIC is going to cost them £250 million per year. My heart bleeds. It’s hardly surprising that they have said that food costs will have to rise, not sure how they will cope: w@nkers

 

"You must be a British citizen or a UK resident to create or sign a petition" (source gov.uk)

My wife is French resident but a British citizen. The UK government makes all sorts of decisions that affect her as a British citizen and as such she has a vote in UK general elections (but not in the French). Why shouldn't she be able to sign a petition that would trigger a debate in the parliament that represents her?

Don't get me wrong, neither she nor I would want to sign this particular petition, but it seems obvious to me why both UK residents and British citizens are able to.

 

Shocked never saw that coming so then inflation rises. And small and medium sized will also do the same.

 

If you're suggesting there will be job losses, that will tend to have a dampening effect on inflation.

 

I feel like I'm going round in circles with you read what I've put to you yesterday and abruzzo red has basically backed up what I said would happen. Base rate of pay rise and N.I for employers rise = product rise

 

You're trying to factor every negative into this which just doesn't pass scrutiny.

If big business cuts workforce it creates more labour supply which is generally anti inflationary. If it increases prices it can have an inflationary effect but industries that create products and services that are like to haves rather than necessity will see their demand stymied at a point.

The likelihood is a mixture of big business streamlining operations, swallowing some of the hike and some modest increases in prices. I suspect they'll also use attrition in the workforce to try and suppress wage growth.

Small and micro businesses (the majority of business) will have insulation to this as already highlighted.

It's not that big a deal at all.

And as I've asked and you've failed to answer before... Whats your answer to fund public services which have been hollowed out for the last 14 years? Who pays the bill? You?

 

14yrs seems to be the quote of 2024,so why were the conservatives voted in in 3 general elections and not voted out after 1 ?

 

You tell me.

And while you're at it, maybe you can tell me why the tories got their lowest ever number of MPs at the last election?

 

Probably they were O.K.for 10 and crap for 4.

 

That's a very naive representation.

First I'd take in that the tories are supported by 80% of the press and media. Second I'd look at the make up of the electorate and that the tories have had the centre right fused for their own gain. Indeed, the liar Johnson struck a pact with Farage to stand down at the 2019 election which guaranteed the right wing vote returned tory.

The centre left vote however is historically split between labour, lib dem and green, and in Wales you have plaid cymru and in Scotland you have the snp. Its extremely difficult under FPTP to get a left coalition in place against what til the last election was a single right party.

You also have to factor in blatant lies told by repeated tory leaders, the russification of the tory Party and online campaigning from bad actors (US, China, Russia) that were clarioned by their media and 'experts' yet when they were found out, nothing to admit such.

If you objectively and independently look at the absolute carnage they've left behind, much of it stems to the lightweights of call me Dave and gidiot. Its still incredible to me that after that pair, the tories only ever managed to lower the bar for the top job each time.

 

But apart from that....?

 

Because worryingly Reform are growing bigger all the time. I dread to think how many more MPs they will have at the next election.

 

6... 7 maybe?

Curious that it was the Lib Dems that benefitted greatly for the splitting of the vote though, not reform.

 

1 if they are lucky

 

Zero if we are lucky

 

I reckon they could get one round here, if a guy who calls black people lazy & savages can get 10k+ votes at the last election then they must be a muslim slur away from winning.

 

Hardly, I'm just putting my point across and reasons as to why I don't think the budget is as great as you make out. Your even trying to put a positive spin on if it creates job losses. Anyway time will tell about the budget and the N.I hikes for businesses but for someone who apparently hasn't voted Labour for 14 years you seem to be doing alot of jumping to their defence.

 

No they were crap for 14 years but just like it takes time to improve things it takes time to ruin them so the damage they were doing wasn't obvious to the voters for years, then there was the Brexit / EU distraction technique which the Tories used to great effect, blame the EU for all the problems that were becoming evident and then tell the voters the answer to the problems was Brexit. Sadly far too many voters in this country aren't interested in things going wrong until they are personally affected, old people or kids on trolleys in hospital corridors instead of wards or treatment rooms isn't a problem until it's their parents or children. People not being able to afford to get on the housing ladder isn't a problem until it's their kids still being at home in their thirties. They are the first to complain when they have an 8 hour wait in A&E or can't get a doctor's appt or the police don't come when they report a stolen car but are also the first to complain when the new government raise taxes to pay for improvements in these services.

 

I voted green this time, Lib Dem before that, Lib Dem before that.

Who did you vote for each time? And what’s your solution. You don’t seem to want to offer your view of how the government should pay for services.

And jobs will be lost, jobs will be created. It’s called an economy.