Season after season of asset stripping and a managed decline have brought us to this. BFC is dying

That is in Layman's terms hitting the hammer on the head.
The club is broken from top to bottom.
Nice to see one of the players out of favour score yesterday for the 21s well done Cotter.
I don't lose too much sleep as I stopped investing in the club 5 years ago.
But it is interesting to see the terraces are emptying week by week.
4800 on Saturday sums this up.
Phillips will be gone in January to ballance the books.
Rinse and repeat we will tread water for years now in this league.
Don't worry the books will ballance ,and coaches will get paid still,they won't lose any sleep,it's just a job for em.

 

But the point some are trying to make (I think) is that £10m thrown in, plus managed decline, equals £20m plus, for the land and a shed load of houses.

Ker Ching.

 

I thought the ground, and I assume the land, were now under Barnsley MBC ownership? As it's Parekh and Quay who are pumping money in and it was the Crynes who used to have half the ground and the Council owned the other half then Parekh and Quay wouldn't see a penny from any ground sale.

 

All 4800 sums up is nobody cares about the fa cup anymore,it’s not just Barnsley fans

 

Great point Andy

this is classic sweating the business assets bring the yearly costs right down for lining up a sale. Selling anything that moves banking every penny and replacing them with non league lower league duds on 50p a week. League one is that terrible we will just sleepwalk mid table so no danger of relegation.

The majority of our owners didn’t make their fortunes themselves, they aren’t the brains behind the business they either married into it or happen to be part of the family that built the business.

They will have clever accountants advising them. There is an end game because nobody is dumb enough to keep pumping £8 million a year into a pit and employ clowns who don’t know what they are doing and at the same time alienating their walking pound signs (fans).

Something is going off and it smells of a sale and relocation of a new ground Legoland style 20k capacity nearby Barnsley somewhere ?

These jokers couldn’t run a corner shop and where does the £8m a year to keep us alive come from when you look at the wage bill, running costs and monies in ? Nothing adds up ?

 

I think the real damage was done by the original purchase and management by Conway and Lee. It was clear to me at the time (and I got slated for saying so) that the objective was to run the football club as a cash cow for the consortium with the hope that any ultimate premier league success would bring in big bucks for said consortium. By selling key assets however and seriously undermining the overall quality and bouncebackability of the playing squad the original consortium have caused awful problems for the new board. I do think the current board have their hearts in the right place more than the old and I'm glad that money is being pumped in in the short term. However, the decline still does not appear to have been stopped (which I thought it would have by now). The key things that seem to be permanently wrong are long-term, gradual, focused improvement of the squad and the ability to pick, support and keep a decent manager. They get these things wrong all the time and as a result they have to pump more money in to compensate. It smacks of poor thinking and a lack of joined up strategy to me. The trouble is, because of all this fans are getting more and more disillusioned and walking away. I haven't been this season - just watched on telly 4 times and listened on the radio a couple of times. I can't face going anymore when I simply think I'm not going to enjoy it. I just assume that if I go Ill be leaving the ground feeling really miserable and I dont want to subject myself to miserableness. I haven't got any real hope left anymore. I dont think I'm a bad fan at heart but several years of decline, bad management, boring football, constant selling of half-decent players has convinced me that Im not valued by the club. So until they improve things and give me some genuine belief they can bollux. That's my take. Whether or not it strikes a chord with folks on here I dunno.

 

Given you stopped investing 5 years ago what makes you think that anyone is going to be willing to shell out for Phillips in a way that would make any significant difference? I’m a regular and I simply can’t see it.

 

The owners of the club don't own any of the land. That's owned by the council. The argument would have to be that the owners are throwing millions at the club in order to destroy it so the council can make money by selling the land for housing. It's a ridiculous proposition.

 

I'm sorry to say, but this post doesn't add up.

Parekh is pouring in money and the ground is owned by the Council, the club having a long term lease.

 

That wouldn't be managed decline, just that they're not very good. If you're trying your best but it doesn't work out, you're not managing a decline, you're just failing. A managed decline suggests that's the intention.

 

January window, high scoring attacking midfielder scoring goals in top end first division side will attract potential Championship side , or mid table Championship side looking to strengthen.
Nailed on ,

 

It must be the most expensive managed decline in history. Results are frustrating at the moment and we need a couple in Jan but it doesn’t mean the squad/manager are terrible and that the board are out to ruin us. Hopefully results turn soon.

 

Tbf if the aim is managed decline, then hopefully they'll be rubbish at it and we'll start winning games.

 

VFiles is a not for profit now - but it wasn’t for the first decade or so of its operation.

You may be right that her husband helped fund her (and it).

Anyway we’re arguing over nothing really. The point is they ought to know what they were doing by now - and at least not making the same mistake on cycle.

 

That's it.

They don't want to lose money. They want us to win the Premier League and be filthy rich in a dream world.

They just have no idea how to run a Football club and are out of their depth.

 

Like I say - I don’t actually think they are doing this intentionally. They don’t own the fabric to profit from it.

But you have to question if they really are this inept or if there’s another motivation. As you have pointed out, though, there is no obvious other motivation at all.

So the conclusion is that they probably are this inept.

Which to be honest at least points to them having integrity. That’s a start.

See if they do begin to learn from past failings. I don’t want them to spend what we don’t have, and to risk the club financially, to do anything crazy.

I would like them to use the little we do have to produce at least a balanced squad; with as much quality as can be afforded.

Not an oversized squad with massive holes in it.

Plenty would ask to spend more. I don’t. Spend less if you can. But operate more cleanly and efficiently. Trim the excesses we don’t need in the squad to reallocate the wage etc. I accept it is unlikely they can do all this in January - but they at least need to start.

 

Not really my point, they don’t own the bricks and mortar so it can’t be that.

 

This is (another) one of those threads that would not have been posted had we, rather than the opposition, scored a last minute winner.

And contributions to threads like these roll in from a fair few posters who don’t even go to matches and thus do not contribute to the club’s continuing existence. Yet they expect someone else to pay hundreds of thousands for the privilege of them watching a winning team via a dodgy stick in their living room. And then join in with accusations of asset stripping and intentionally managing decline.

If you are actually forking out to “support” your team, then your voice deserves to be heard shouting louder above keyboard moaners. The views of those who devote their time to going to away matches in addition to home matches deserve far more respect than such as my own.

Nevertheless, nobody can easily make a silk purse out of this sow’s arse of a club because it requires, basically, for a person or persons to be prepared to lose a shed load of money.

And unless I am wrong, there is nobody interested in the slightest in taking over from the present lot. Nor is there likely to be, unless you count chancers and undercover charlatans, which is pretty much what we first got when Cryne largely bailed out.

We get to read post after post over this season and past ones, when the going gets tough, about how crap the club is and about how the time has come to stop bothering, and how hard done by we all are. But we are no worse than the others that we compete against.

There is indeed a general lack of interest, a sense of depression manifesting itself down at Oakwell. That’s because we’re crap at home and have been for ages.

Turn that round and it’s a different ball game.

 

They have a very poor, expensive and over complicated football philosophy and are making a balls up.

We've tried to be different to make up for our financial short comings but we're spunking money down the pot on excessive coaching staff and a massively unnecessary board/ executive staff structure, there's better run clubs with smaller fan bases and less resource.

Trim the fat from the club and bring in players with backbone and experience and a manager that plays simple effective football, I couldn't give a toss about XG, running stats, pass completion percentage or whatever other dross the DOF looks at, I'm interested in points and the league table

 

I agree with you to a point. If they turn things around a lot of the moaning will stop. The turnaround though has to be a long-term one though so that people who are disengaged (like me) start to see something hopeful over a decent period of time. A couple of wins in the next month won't automatically suggest everything is hunky - dory. The decline had been over quite a few seasons now, the improvement has to be long term or at least look like its capable of being long-term