Are 'we' complicit in sponsoring Elon Musk?

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  1. Marc

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    Every Twitter click. Every Tesla. Every Powerwall. All of it funds Elon Musk, who is fast becoming one of the most dangerous, unhinged, far-right narcissists on the planet. Every single person who buys his products, is funding Elon Musk and what he stands for.

    How many people are turning a blind eye to this, because they quite like using Twitter and have loads of followers? How many people will turn a blind eye to this, because the Model 3 has the best reviews, or the Powerwall is the most efficient battery?

    Is it reasonable to ask people who oppose Elon Musk, to boycott his products?
     
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    It is reasonable to ask, Indeed, you should not have the need to ask. However, as much as I personally would love to see it, it’ll never happen, at least not to an extent where it would have any significance to his sales
     
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    I left Twitter soon after Trump won the election. I would certainly make a conscious decision not to buy anything from Musk. I don’t see the point of him outside business, other than to create havoc.
     
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    Everything online is complicit.
     
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    I'd definitely think twice before buying anything on impulse.
     
  6. Marc

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    I'm also realistic about what influence it would have. But people can do their bit, can't they? If they don't, aren't they just part of the problem?
     
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    It's the scientific growth and wanting to speed up space travel that I'm behind.

    Tesla's research was taken away and put in vaults.

    Musk wants to try and ultimately save humanity...doesn't he?
     
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    NO! He really doesn't. He wants to make money.
     
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    How much money can you have though?
     
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    Musk wants everyone to look at him and bow down to him.
     
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    Exactly same reason why we keep buying iPhones, particular shoes/trainers & Disney+ etc. It's a sad reality of life.
     
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    The only benefit of boycotting Tesla and X would be for your own wellbeing and moral fibre. He wouldn’t even notice.

    He could close x tomorrow, never sell another car, and the interest alone on his personal wealth as it stands would dwarf the gdp of a lot of sovereign nations.

    His wealth makes him powerful. That power and his leanings and views make him very dangerous. Trump with essentially bottomless resource and less moderate.

    The only saving grace being his nationality. He will fall out with Trump soon enough for the constitution not to be altered in the USA.

    It’s no coincidence that he’s switched attention to U.K. affairs and all of a sudden started mentioning his British heritage - the grandmother born in the U.K.
     
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    He hasn't actually got any. The deal to buy Twitter is the worst deal that has ever been brokered. It's such a poisonous debt that it's more toxic to banks than the subprime mortgages of 2008. He's broke. And so you get this right-wing propaganda. The first thing you do is mobilise people who will react to crimes against children. You get a reaction from all sides with that. And then you start insinuating that it's the foreigners who are doing it, and we're already there, we're back to the 1930s when it was the Jews who were animals, and now it's anyone who isn't white.
     
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    I really didn't go that deep. Everyday's a school day. Apologies for my ignorance.
     
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    Agreed. Even so, isn't that the absolute bare minimum that people should be doing though? I just can't get my head round people wilfully funding him.
     
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    Don't apologise mate, you have an opinion, you're allowed it.

    You're not, in any way, attempting to put down the opinion of others. You're just expressing yours.

    I think Musk is attempting to belittle the opinion of those who don't agree with him. I'd encourage you to look at what he writes and judge that for yourself, rather than listen to what I write.
     
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    Not sure I get how you think he's broke tbf. In December he became the first person to pass net worth of $400bn. I think his liabilities on Twitter are about $15bn. He's predicted to become the first ever trillionaire by the end of the decade. I agree, Twitter was a mad deal, but that's not where his wealth comes from. It comes from Tesla & SpaceX. His alliance with Trump is key though. His net worth went through the roof when the orange one got back in. So I imagine it would also tumble if they fell out. Which is distinctly possible with those two nutjacks.
     
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    Is it really the worst deal? It's basically bought him the whole US government
     
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    Tesla is surely wildly overvalued, and by every measurement I can't see why it's where it is. But unfortunately we've got to the point where it's become one of the big stocks propping up the market. And most of that is Musk, unfortunately.

    Let's just say I'm glad I'm going to be paying in to the stock market over the next couple of decades, rather than withdrawing.
     
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    In my opinion ( if you are even allowed one these days without getting labeled, something or other)

    Musk
    He's either attempting at becoming or as become the Riddler ( i cant quite figure him out and id say im not on my own on that score) however
    The easiest way to describe it all would be, to say
    Welcome to the mad world of Gotham city
    Fiction played out In real time effecting the real lives of everyday folk

    It's just a game to the those at the very top
    We are but collateral damage in their wake
     
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