Barnsley fan jailed

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  1. Deafening Silence

    Deafening Silence Well-Known Member

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    What answers do you want? The government has announced there will be a public enquiry. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3exxl8zp8o

    Seems to also be another child failed by the system.
     
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    Hopefully the answers will be in there then. Just stating we need some, which can’t be anything else but true.
     
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    No I get that. If you read the BBC website it says:

    "Rudakubana was excluded from the school in October 2019, aged 13, after which he returned to the school in December 2019 with a hockey stick and assaulted a pupil, breaking their wrist. He had to be restrained by a teacher.

    After this, he attended The Acorns School, which provides specialist education for those with extra needs, and was then enrolled in Presfield High School & Specialist College.

    He only attended sixth form there for a few days and was largely dealt with by home visits. The school would sometimes ask for police to attend when they visited.

    Lancashire Child Safeguarding Partnership said Rudakubana "struggled to re-integrate into school" following his exclusion from Range High.

    It also said Lancashire Constabulary responded to five calls from his home address, between October 2019 and May 2022, relating to concerns about his behaviour.

    It was revealed last August he had an "autism spectrum disorder diagnosis" and had been "unwilling to leave the house and communicate with family for a period of time".

    Rudakubana called Childline several times as a young teenager, eventually telling the service he was going to take a knife into school because of racial bullying.

    This was one of the incidents that led to him be excluded from Range High School.

    The NSPCC said Rudakubana's last call to Childline was "sufficiently serious to breach a threshold" which led Childline to inform local authorities of its concerns in 2019.

    An NSPCC spokesperson said the attack was a tragedy and said it was "vital" that any review that follows the court case examines "all the circumstances and reasons which contributed to this terrible attack" to ensure similar tragedies can be stopped in the future."
     
  4. Jay

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    Could I ask @onemickybutler why you liked this? Let's hear what you think. This lad has put what he thinks out there so we can all make a judgement. He's not OK. Why have you liked this?

    I need to know who I'm talking to here because this site is becoming beyond the pale.
     
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    I'm not sure they showed that picture for any other reason than it was the only one that could be found on Social Media. It's not a cover up, as soon as the mugshot has been released they've shown it.

    On the Christian with Al Qaeda material, possessing material doesn't make you a follower of that religion. There'll be plenty of ppl who own Mein Kampf or have read it out of intrigue but don't end up far right fascists.

    I get all your points, very reasonably put, but there also seems to be explanations for all of them. Not that many will believe them - lots will want it to be deemed a cover up etc for their own gain.
     
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    Why wasn’t the truth about it being terrorist related out there at the time? Why was it covered up? I’d say they’re perfectly legitimate answers to ask. I agreed with what the poster had to say. If you don’t like that, that’s your prerogative.
     
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    Is that saying I’m not ok? If so, on what note? If you disagree with something I put then it is that as face value, an opinion or a post. Judging me as a person, insinuating I’m not ok, either by morals, mentally, emotionally or any other way I can be deemed ‘not ok’ is most certainly not ok.
     
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    Bit of a bad cover up when you release the information publicly a couple of months later isn’t it.

    They need to go to secret keeping lessons i reckon.
     
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    Maybe cover up isn’t the best description. Initially lying or holding back the true picture is better.
     
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    So, on the afternoon of 29th of July I'm talking to my best friend. What had happened had made the news but it's not what had really happened. He's telling me what had actually happened, because his sister, who I've known all my life, is the wife of the minister of that area. And they're there, in it, dealing with it. And he's scared, and he tells me what he thinks will happen... I disagree with him, I lived in Bradford during the riots and I didn't think the situation we were in was close to that. And then Manvers happened. I was wrong, he was right.

    And the reason he was right is because, people wrote, on social media, similar posts to what you've written. They whipped up racial hatred. So no, you're not OK. And f*** you.
     
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    Why are you so desperate to try and tie him to Islam? His parents are evangelical Christians, his possession of an Al Qaeda training manual will have been due to the content rather than ideological alignment.
     
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    There is not one bit of racial hatred in my post, you’ve assumed that. And proved what I said when I mentioned I’d be called derogatory things when nothing I said was badly put, as confirmed by another poster. Sounds to me like you’re not ok, £1 for 8 packs of tissues at poundworld.
     
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    Also this is complete b0llocks. Idiot.
     
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    Long winded way of saying "I'm not racist but......"
     
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    That's a nonsense post. You've claimed that we need answers because of what a person looks like. That's what prejudice is, it's judging people by what they look like. That's what lead to what happened at Manvers. It's putting things like what you've wrote on social media that leads to people attempting to burn down hotels. You're going to get called out on it from now on, because I'm not standing for attempted murder happening in my town.
     
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    I’m not desperate I was posting something factual. And questioning the reason of him being deemed a Christian?
     
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    Please let's not let facts get in the way of a good pitchfork witch hunt.
     
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    This BBS is not X. Some people want it to be, but I'm going to fight for it not to be.

    If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists.
     
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    I’ve said he looks scary, if you disagree that’s fine? That isn’t racist, he isn’t scary because he’s black, he’s scary because of the look in his eyes. I also aren’t wanting answers on his look, completely on his actions. You and a few others here are writing your own stories and running with them. Typical really.
     
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