Two large, cumbersome, slow-moving objects collide.

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  1. wombwell-red

    wombwell-red Well-Known Member

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    No i'm not talking about Pines and Earl trying to defend.

    A really bad incident is currently happening about 10 mile off the shore of Spurn Point where a cargo ship has crashed into a stationary oil tanker full of fuel.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgq1pwjlqq2t - is the link to find live updates.

    An absolute disaster all round, especially for the environment. I went walking from Bridlington to Flamborough head yesterday and saw a big group of dolphins jumping out of the water and messing about which makes todays accident even more distressing.
     
    wombwell-red, Mar 10, 2025 at 2:04 PM
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    How?. Just how?
     
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    This brings back memories of Torrey Canyon...
     
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    Yes, saw this earlier. Happened just before 10 am this morning.
    A Portuguese cargo vessel somehow ran into an anchored up US oil tanker.
     
    onemickybutler, Mar 10, 2025 at 3:12 PM
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    Dalestykes, Mar 10, 2025 at 3:15 PM
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    It's now come out one of the boats was carrying sodium cyanide and they're unsure if it's entered the water or not.

    It's getting worse and worse.
     
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    And the other was carrying aviation fuel.
     
    SFOTyke, Mar 10, 2025 at 6:00 PM
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    Something doesn’t seem right with this to me
     
    john coucom, Mar 10, 2025 at 6:45 PM
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    I read that it can take 1 hour for an anchor to be raised. Although it could explain why one of them was stationary at the time of collision, it doesn’t answer why they collided with the ‘electronic’ and ‘manual’ means of warnings available to both vessels?
     
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    Which way is the Orange dildo with ears & MAGA going to twist this one?
     
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    I find it very difficult to understand how 2 big boats like that can collide in daytime in clear weather. AIS should have been making all kinds of noise just from being close to another boat without even taking into account the rrquirement to keep a visual watch.
     
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    If one boat collides with a harbour wall did the harbour wall collide with the boat or was it just hit? Just intrigued with the headline wording when a moving boat hits a stationary boat but its still 2 boats collide.
     
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    Yes, that is definitely what should be getting discussed here.
     
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    It does all seem a bit strange, not necessarily from a conspiracy viewpoint, but certainly a logistics one.
    I remember a funny after dinner speaker in the 80s, a retired air traffic controller. He always made light of how easy the job was, in theory, by describing his job as like letting 2 flies into the largest indoor arena in the world and hoping they avoid hitting each other.
    I can only assume getting 2 ships to miss each other, in a large ocean expanse, is a similarly 'easy' task. Especially given the modern radar and collision avoidance devices.
     
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    These things are usually a combination of factors, for example - whatever collision avoidance they have might not have been working on the Cargo ship, the tanker was "parked" in a designated part of the Sea where other ships wait, and other ships pass by/through regularly. Then probably human error - was the captain at the wheel? Was someone else on watch and just didn't do their job? Weather - was it foggy? Like I say, probably a few things went wrong unfortunately.
     
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    Hybrid warfare like cutting communication / power cables and oil / gas pipelines 'accidentally" in the Baltic sea. Putin thinks he can do what he wants now he's got an asset or two in the White House.
     
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    I guess flies and planes are in 3D space where as ships are on a 2D plane. If two planes are heading directly towards each other but their altitude differs by 30ft they'll miss each other. Can't get a lot of altitude in an oil tanker. And if you try to turn a plane it will turn, spin the wheel on a cargo ship and it will keep going in the same direction for a long time before your actions have any effect. Bit like Sam Cosgrove trying to turn his man.

    I don't know how true it is, but it sounded reasonable to me when I heard it...
    If we just let planes fly where the pilot liked, rather than be directed by air traffic control and have predetermined routes, it would be less likely that any would hit each other. There's that much space up there the chances of planes being in the exact same place at the same time are miniscule when it's random. It's being directed to fly at a specific altitude on a specific course that brings them close together.
     
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