So thats 19 in 10 years............ A problem with Coaches/Managers? I think not!

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  1. Bla

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    Look at them all. Tells its own story. Something at this club, stirring away beneath is just not right. O.K. some of these were ,"Stand - ins" BUT .......................................... Club needs a proven Coach, one with some credible back story like many, elsewhere ,who seem to be able to organise and coach,"modest" players into a far stronger unit.

    Darrell Clarke 23 May, 2024 Present
    Neill Collins 06 Jul, 2023 22 Apr, 2024
    Michael Duff 15 Jun, 2022 30 Jun, 2023
    Martin Devaney 25 Apr, 2022 14 Jun, 2022
    Poya Asbaghi 17 Nov, 2021 24 Apr, 2022
    Joseph Laumann 01 Nov, 2021 17 Nov, 2021
    Markus Schopp 29 Jun, 2021 01 Nov, 2021
    Valerien Ismael 25 Oct, 2020 29 Jun, 2021
    Adam Murray 15 Oct, 2020 25 Oct, 2020
    Gerhard Struber 20 Nov, 2019 15 Oct, 2020
    Adam Murray 08 Oct, 2019 20 Oct, 2019
    Daniel Stendel 06 Jun, 2018 08 Oct, 2019
    Jose Morais 16 Feb, 2018 06 May, 2018
    Paul Harsley 06 Feb, 2018 16 Feb, 2018
    Paul Heckingbottom 06 Feb, 2016 05 Feb, 2018
    Lee Johnson 25 Feb, 2015 06 Feb, 2016
    Mark Burton 12 Feb, 2015 25 Feb, 2015
    Paul Heckingbottom 12 Feb, 2015 25 Feb, 2015
    Danny Wilson 17 Dec, 2013 12 Feb, 2015
     
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    Whilst I think this is a ridiculous turnover, but where do we rank amongst our peers? Many people are posting about DC's sacking as if we are the only club that does this. It's Football! Things go wrong, and rightly or wrongly, the manager gets sacked. We're not unique in this aspect.
     
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    Hows the Sporting Director got the gall to come out with that statement?
     
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    Kinda makes the headline stat a meaningless one when some of them were stand ins for a matter of 10 days. But I get the gist.
     
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    11 of em in the Conway era. Just saying. Sometimes following a kick in the b*ll*cks a quick count and a rub and your good to go. Other times and you may require surgery. For us it was the latter.
     
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    I discount any list that contains either interim managers or those that left us rather then sacked for being gash. Then it’s a lot less drastic.
     
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    YET one out of three of them all were sacked. This comes with an evident cost,money, which we are told ,cannot be afforded for player development/transfers in. Their time at the club is so ludicrously short, this is the crux of my point, not just in chronically inept player recruitment BUT ALSO in similalrly incompetent coaching recruitment.
     
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    That is an interesting question so i had a look and got these results:

    We've had 19 managers since 2015
    Rotherham have had 9 managers since 2015
    Sheff Weds have had 13
    Bolton have had 8
    Huddersfield have had 18
    Charlton have had 15
    Wycombe have had 4
    Wigan have had 12
    Peterborough have had 10 (3 separate times by Ferguson and 3 times by McCann which is mental)
     
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    This is what happens when your run the club like a discount warehouse that pays peanuts. Any half decent employee is able to get a better paid job elsewhere, and if you're not that good at the job with the terrible staff you have, you get sacked anyway. We may as well just rebrand ourselves as 'franchise fc' and have completely new staff and players each year - nearly do that anyway.
     
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    I count 5 that have moved on of there own doing and 6 in caretaker roles. Look 8 isn't great but not as bad as the bare facts who knows what would have happened if one of the decent ones had stayed abit longer.
     
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    Would live to know the sum of the payouts we have made on those managers sacked by the club
    Must run into the millions.
     
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    If the club is being run like a discount warehouse and paying peanuts, yet is still reportedly losing several hundred thousands of pounds a month, I'd like to know how it would survive by paying MORE to players.
     
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    I think you do have to take into account managers that have left us as they all seem to want to leave asap. Have we ever had a manager linked with another club who’s chosen to stay?

    Obviously money plays a part but managers want their own staff & involvement in transfers.

    Our managers seem to have no faith in the people running the club.
     
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    Poor selection in a fair few of them, others were good choices but left for better an bigger clubs and obviously MONEY, without money the quality of Manager will always be adequate, get a good un an they'll be off as soon as a bigger better offer rolls in, it'll always be like that.
     
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    Maybe fewer coaches, better run commercial side etc. Crazy ideas.
     
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    Could be offset by compo we've received when our manager is poached.
     
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    To put a little perspective on things, on those 19.

    7 were caretakers.
    Hecky
    Burton
    Harsley
    Murray x2
    Lauman
    Devaney

    5 were offered jobs elsewhere.
    Johnson
    Hecky
    Strubher
    Val.
    Duff

    6 sacked
    1 Stendl ?

    We have been a good stepping stone for a few. I hope we got good compensation. But It's certainly a sad state of affairs and I'm not sure what the answer is. Stick a big release clause in. But that may have to include a more than ample salary. And pay off if fails.
     

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