That's what I thought, I really struggle with midweek and the kick off changes, with finishing work then commuting approx 60/70 mins. No incentive on those prices, still getting punished for sky moving games. Thought the club would use the flexi ticket as a Carrott, appreciate they don't won't to make them cheaper than a full ST but of they could have got them around the £19/£20 a game Mark they would have sold essentially what would be otherwise empty seats without impacting ST sales. Think they've got the pricing wrong on the flexi, nice gesture on the ST prices though.
A really big decision by the club to freeze season tickets on the back of the increased costs that the club have faced this season with employers national insurance, national minimum wage and energy costs as well as the increase in average first team budgets that have been seen in league one in the last couple of seasons. The figures we are talking about are eye watering! I hope the fans get behind this commitment from the board and renew. Next season we’ll start to see some of the improvements that the cap-ex project is bringing like the fan zone and safe standing but there are other very noticeable improvements that will come along as well!
Fair play. Could and probably should have put prices up but it's decent pricing all things considered.
I get what you are saying, but when there's no prospect of ever making those 8 games it's just dead money, then you look towards the flexi ticket and think hang on a minute I'm paying £23 something a match because Sky are moving games, it's like double punishment.
Well done BFC. It's good to see that some on here appreciate the price freeze. A price freeze during difficult times; not only for our Club, but for club football in this country. Given the financial challenges the Club are facing, I think this is a terrific gesture. Maybe it might even drive a few more to buy.
Fan improvements are welcome but are we going to make a better job of recruitment? That's the main priority....without some decent football and more wins there'll be no fans to enjoy the improved facilities.
Really. I would expect the FAB gave a thumbs up to that at the last meeting. They are trying to appeal to the customers who may not make all games. With the effect of sky. Etc. Who made it known to the FAB. That's what they'd like to happen. It's a difficult era we are in to try gauge what is seen as reasonable. This next coming season will be the test. As someone said re Bradford the prices they are charging suggests they were not able to continue at previous yrs prices. Hence the big hike.
I think it is a great incentive from the club to sell season tickets. I have always been optimistic around BFC. For once I think this will be the least season tickets sold in the last few years. Sorry for being the pessimist.
I get that. But for me it's the other way round. I think a better-looking Oakwell, improved facilities etc is more important. I appreciate there are some who feel that rewarding the so-called 'unruly' element in OR1 with safe standing is a poor decision, but if it means those fans are stood up all game and not arguing with stewards but are getting songs going, ramping up the atmosphere etc, I'm all for it. Can't say I'm into any sort of 'Fanzone'. It just isn't something that appeals to me. I'm old fashioned. I get to the ground a few minutes before KO having been in town with friends for an hour or two. But there is clearly - based on numbers who used to frequent the first iteration some years ago now - a demand for it. So an improved offering has to be welcome. The budget for the first team will again be competitive, you'd have to imagine. So it's about those tasked with that area of the club making a good job of it. I think that's a separate thing isn't it, from season tickets, facilities etc? That's a Jon Flatman thing, the other a Mladen Sormaz thing. So if @Gally is right, and what Jon himself says in the article comes to fruition, then he's doing a good job. Fingers crossed Mladen follows suit this summer.
Thought about getting a season ticket again this year, not had one since COVID season, got out of the habit, and match atmospheres just not what they used to be. But after seeing those prices won't be taking up the offer. Really poor offering and thinking from the club having the two different early bird prices and penalising someone who maybe wanted to come back. Not being ripped off though like that. Just because I haven't renewed in that specified period. They don't give a monkeys about the 26 years prior to that I had a season ticket every season. Just offer the same early bird price across the board and try and increase attendance.
That's not pessimism Baz. But realistic. If we were just talking about things on the field of play yes. But we aren't. This season we went many weeks without a Saturday 3pm game. Friday nights Saturday noon Saturday night
I think that pricing is fine. More than fine to be honest. That’s not the issue for me. It’s about the ‘product’ on the park -awful - and the ambition off the field - aspires to be awful (because that would be an improvement on what we have at present). When the quality of the experience picks up, attendances will pick up.
But that's not how it works? I think its more than fair for those who have had one in the last three years to be eligible. Its actually quite good that they're offering discounted rates to new sign ups too. So buy one and then next year you get it cheaper again.
Freezing the price is a big call and will of course be welcomed by thousands who will renew. I reckon those who do will have renewed anyway, even with a bit of an increase. So it’s a big call - and to me, apologies for the negativity, but it smacks of desperation a little. All logic dictates the prices need to go up. All costs have gone up exponentially. We are also haemorrhaging paying supporters. They know it is hugely unlikely that next season’s numbers will match this season. So they haven’t frozen prices for another reason than out of a last ditch desperate attempt to get people to retain tickets - often these people aren’t even still going to the games. Will it work? Probably for some, I doubt it will for all. Would they have been better taking the hit in sales but having a higher price point? Maybe - though you’d hope they want the stands as full as possible. I’m still attending. But I won’t be renewing. The freezing of the price hasn’t changed my mind in that - if it had gone up a bit it wouldn’t have bothered me. It isn’t the pricing that’s the issue. I do have my own family reasons for considering not renewing - but these last two seasons have delivered a lot of shocking performances at home - and I’m finding I’m caring less and less each time. I’ve had the passion for it knocked out of me. Will it come back? Maybe. But not during the early bird period and probably not in time to make me get a season ticket for next season.
The discriminatory pricing is a fairly recent phenomenon, and has evolved from the practice of having early bird pricing options (not just at BFC, but more generally). The Early Bird is an incentive to renew early, as this benefits the club. New S/T holders would have to commit to a limited option of seats, as all the currently held ones are blocked off from sale in that period, but are still giving the same advanced commitment that the existing ST renewals are making, yet are being asked to pay more for the privilege. I totally get why it would be a dis-incentive to someone in MDG's situation. It's the equivalent of a golf club joining fee for new members. I don't like it on principle, but it's not unique to BFC.
Out of intrigue, does the option of a flexi-ticket appeal to you? On that description, you'd be exactly the type of supporter they're being pitched at.
It’s the final roll of the dice from this ownership for me, they’re under serious pressure and they’re about as popular as the current government at the moment, so they’ve used this to try and retain a large bunch of supporters who weren’t going to renew at the end of the season. I won’t be bothering, the price ain’t the problem for me. I can’t see it bringing the stay away fans back either, oakwell is just boring, negative and a proper task to get yourself up for going to it.