Let Hourihane get on with it

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  1. KamikazeCo-Pilot

    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

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    Loads of threads on here about direction, board, Sormaz, Neerav, sales etc and yes this is another thread on similar lines. However, in an attempt to crystallise things I do think that now is an ideal time to back the coach, trust the coach, let the coach dictate tactics, let him dictate recruitment, let him keep players he wants for the long-term rather than selling for a short-term boost to the finances. If the board cannot see that long-term success is dependant on building rather than weakening and trusting and supporting a coach rather than sacking him after 9/10 months then we are truly doomed. Further funds will probably be needed but the board are wasting funds all the time due to poor management. Good management is to trust the coach. If the coach is good as the board presumably assume (otherwise why appoint him?) back him! This close season is really Wendesdayesque for the board and Sormaz even more than it is for Hourihane
     
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    Completely agree, but it's not our modus operandi is it. Just can't see it happening, board knows best, I'll be surprised if we start 26/27 with CH in charge.
     
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    37 seconds long and I can't watch that till the end. Prime example of a bloke promoted above his level of capability.
     
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    C,O,Y,R,
     
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    Now I'm no fan of Sormaz but I took that to mean that he was praising Conor for producing his own detailed plans ahead of his sessions.
     
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    Sporting Directors remit was to create a coaching methodology when he came to the club, this usually would involve a set of strategies and techniques being pre set out to teach and improve the technical skills of players
     
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    Agreed, it’s very clear in the whole clip he is talking about how focused & detailed Conor is which supports what some of the players have also already said.
     
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    Conors not a idiot he's already spoke about recruiting new faces in the summer. He's made his money in football and he wouldn't just come into management to be a scapegoat and his management career be over before it starts. I assume he's had assurances.
     
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    Conor is focused, extremely driven, hardworking, very switched on but the problem isn't conor.
    Both Collins and Clarke experienced far too much interference, as the OP says if conor is left to get on with the job we will be fine.
     
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    That’s where you and I differ then, as I believe Sormaz was saying that is what Conor is doing in that clip where as you are saying he is following orders.
    I don’t believe for a minute Conor would take a gig on under those conditions as he knows he would struggle to succeed and would be better waiting.
     
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    We use data throughout the club around performance which is not alien in this day
    Mladen implemented a coaching methodology into the club to use that player performance data, part of that is using a specific training methodology which enables coaches to have clarity on what to deliver to the players.

    I won't name names under any circumstances but I used to employ a former player, I used to employ a former member of our 1st team staff still involved in the game to this day, one of my close friends sister is married to an ex player premier league days, it's not bull***t I get to hear bits and pieces, the whole thing has been flipped on its head in the last 18 months, both Clarke and Collins became casualties, Collins was getting results until Mladen came in and changed the approach, ultimately sacked for not being able to play the style.
    It's not something I would conjure up whatsoever, 4 head coaches have managed 8 wins in 31 homes games since the game model and coaching methodology has been implemented, it's changed everything from recruitment, style of play, coaching and the way we look to develop players, data output and number crunching dictates pretty much everything now.
     
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    Well we didn't get the new head coach bounce that myself and other fans had hoped for. But then again no headcoach would anticipated that MDG would **** up in three consecutive matches culminating with being sent off against the league leaders after three minutes on the pitch. The defeat at Orient despite leading 3-1 could be a blessing in disguise at it left CH in no doubt that major change to the squad in both player and coaching personnel and attitude will be needed during the summer. I just hope the club hierarchy will support him.
     
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    I'm not disputing we use data etc, I’m saying that specific interview he is talking about Conor’s detailed training plans, which ties in with others saying how detailed Conor is. If you have inside info that says Sormaz is arranging the training programs and the Coaches are just implementing then you know more than me(which wouldn’t be hard :)).

    If true then it comes back to what I’ve said all along, we should be holding Neerav responsible for allowing it to happen and then worse allowing it to continue given the results it is showing.
     
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    Ever wondered why we've players that have regressed, ever wondered why we keep making the same mistakes week in week out, ever heard people on here "what do they do in training"
    It's upto Conor how it's delivered but part of that is using a specific training methodology which enables the club coaches to have clarity on what to deliver to the players.
     
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    There's no doubt ch is a clever man sharp as a tack. We were set up for this outcome from before he left as a player and he was back two minutes and he worked out Clarke wouldn't last that's why he hung up his boots didn't want to be Conor the player to the rest. Will he bring us success I've no idea its a gamble no doubt but for me it's one worth taking.
    The new way of doing things is interesting if true. We've got to try something the only way to guarantee to get out of any league is to spend loads of money well. There's no way we are going to do that. So let's hope Conor the coach has a plan that he can deliver as well as the one he's just pulled off but if he does don't expect him to hang around for his love of our club.
     
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    Time will tell.. the next four months till August to be exact. They seems to be a bit of a rift on the bench for a start. So maybe changes there. Conor confiding in Tom Harban, with Devaney clearly being pushed out. Maybe he will take the rap for the club's coaching failures, we will see.
    Conor hinting at coaching changes.
    Stead has been mentioned favourablely so should be ok..
    The way Flavell comes at everything with his legs, I'd be questioning Matt Ghents worth as keeper coach as well.
    The board can see themselves with the amount of red seats on match days how they are doing.
    I really think/hope they realise that next season could be 'last chance saloon' time, to make any kind of success running a football club.
    I think they've tried it their way and failed so have no choice than to give Conor free hand. Conor has already started that you don't need to spend bags of money just bring in players with the right metal..
    I agree with most on here leaving Conor alone to get on with it and the club backing his judgement.. we'll be fine.. in Conor we trust..
    If not then the old adage of.. same 5'hit different @rseole.. will apply
     
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    In theory there is nothing wrong with having a specific training methodology but as always that depends on the detail, how it’s delivered and how it’s measured.
    As an example if that methodology involves they want to see certain metrics to help evaluate, measure & develop then great but if it’s you must play this certain way, and players must play in certain positions etc then not so.

    Ultimately again it comes back to Nareev as Sormaz will only be doing what he is being told/allowed to do.
     

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