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    Red Rob Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't, Tory policy around migrants costs us. This has been explained to you a million times on here, but you lack the ability to take in information which doesn't suit your narrative.
     
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    "Why should they get jobs, wages" ermm we don't just dish jobs out. If we did then benefit fraud wouldn't cos us much more than asylum seekers do.

    Did you really just claim they without a crb check there's only a small proportion of jobs that someone can do?
     
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    What have labour done or doing to change it?
     
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    Things that could prevent or limit your job prospects.

    Speaking little or no English.
    Having no background check or history.
    Having no skills, trade or profession.
     
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    Returned more immigrants in their first 6 months in charge than the Tories did during any 6 months period in their 14 years?
    have a higher quarterly rate of returning immigrants than the Tories managed at any point during their 14 years of failed government?

    I'd say that's a pretty impressive start
     
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    So if they have no skills, trade or profession. Which is just a guess by yourself obviously. Then how are they taking jobs from our homeless people?
     
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    My reference to homeless was only down to you saying we should give them jobs. Which we could do with homeless, house them and give them jobs.
     
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    They got asked how many were people in hotels who crossed via small boats or lorry's and would not answer. I think the majority were just people overstaying there visa.

    I thought starmer was stopping the people traffickers? He's doing a terrible job.
     
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    I didn't say we should give them jobs
     
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    But you accept that they have returned more people in the country illegally than the Tories managed ever managed during the same time period despite having 14 years to try. Right?

    Whataboutery or politicians answers of "but they didn't answer a different question" or "but I saw on Facebook that more boats are coming".

    Simple question. Have labour got a higher quarterly return rate for people who were in the country illegally since they came into power than the Tories managed in ANY quarterly period during their 14 year tenure? Yes or no?
     
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    I’m on holiday in Spain at the moment. Surrounded by British people who call themselves ‘ex-pats’. We got into conversation with a couple who were telling us about an acquaintance who, prior to Brexit, had lived here ‘below the radar’ doing everything in cash and paying no taxes. When they needed medical assistance of the type you can’t buy from the Farmacia they hot-footed it back to Blighty to take advantage of our NHS. They apparently voted for Brexit, but then found themselves having to apply for citizenship to stay in Spain (much to their annoyance:)). Immigrants eh?
     
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    I could speak at some length on this from first hand knowledge if it weren't for pesky professional obligations.
     
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    Clearly you know a lot more than me so I will bow out. Years of public service has worn me down I’m afraid and I try to retain a neutral stance.
     
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    I'm back home now. Stent inserted, back for laser fragmentation in about 8 weeks.
     
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    Thanks mate, I got my wife Anne to bring some goodies in for the ward staff.
     
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    Glad you are now back home Brush.
    My young lad still waiting to be operated on. Meant to be an urgent case but no progress.
    It’s a long wait
     
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    My consultant mentioned the procedure that I think your lad is having, an incision in the side and opening the kidney to remove the stone. He described it as the last resort :eek:

    Hope it goes well for him. I suspect that long term he'll have to make lifestyle changes with diet and particularly increased fluid intake. When I had a stone in 2016, I never thought for a minute that I'd have another, so this time I will have to take note, make sure he does too. If I was to get another one, I might be in my late 70s, not a pleasant thought.
     
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    He has had stones before but this one is apparently a monster. Last one was seven years ago.
    He has just gone into theatre so now just the wait.
     
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    Thank you BrunNer
     

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