Tory Boy Starmer wins through on the back of the disabled

Well, sorry. That is the end of me voting Labour when this horse trader is in town. If they had improved mental health diagnosis waiting lists, come up with a plan to get the physically disabled into work and looked at wider disability access to jobs, OK. No, disabled people can **** off, pretty much. Reform need a new leader. Ideal candidate.

 

6700 more mental health workers since last year and 100,000 more NHS appointments a week will support lots of people in work or back to work.

Most people won't see their payments affected since the amendment last week.

The welfare bill can't keep going up after years of sticking plasters by the last lot and no support for people who need it hopefully what has been announced alongside the bill will help.

 

Reform won't get anything done with their dreamworld policies. How are they affording these make a wish promises to the captivated public that goes beyond just "get rid of the foreigners"

It's baseless rhetoric from them. I'm disillusioned by Labour myself so I won't be voting them next election but Reform is not the answer in the slightest.

 

I know you're a candidate / elected councillor, so have to toe the party line, but surely you can see how much the rush to push through this bill without any adequate consultation had angered many party members from across the spectrum.

Today's vote has been utterly shameful, and that's coming from a Starmer supporter and current party member.

 

Its sad and worrying that so many Labour supporters won't be voting Labour anymore. I include myself in that. Starmer and his team are effectively inviting some other party to take over and another guy to be next prime minister. Absolute shambles of a bill. Looks bad on all levels because it has been bad on all levels.

 

They won’t be voting Labour because it’s not Labour ,with a leader that attacks pensioners and the disabled , demonises Asylum Seekers and quotes racists ,refuses to call out genocide , embarrasses the country by bending over to a white supremacist racist US President

 

Correct. Don’t vote for right wing reactionary parties - and Labour is certainly one of those. I was pleased a number of Labour MPs voted against this appalling bill. Tbh, I didn’t think they had the backbone.

 

A powerful speech made by the Penistone mp Marie Tidball.

Welfare bill vote: MP with disability fights back tears as she urges government to reconsider cuts | Politics News | Sky News https://share.google/lNq69KLroZVyiMLqK

 

Totally agree, I’ve requested my membership to be cancelled from this.

 

Sadly you are deluded, if you think that this is remotely accurate. There is no "help" in this bill, just cuts. The chances of me voting reform are about as big as Barnsley FC becoming Premier League champions. I am truly disgusted in Starmer, he makes Blair look like Che Guevara in comparison.

 

While i completely understand and agree with your sentiment, we need to make sure the next labour leader when enoch starmer is inevitably ousted is good. Worst case scenario is Labour party membership dwindling and the tories like those on here defending the indefensible from starmer being the ones to choose the next leader.

 

I think the real problem for Starmer, is that this sort of welfare reform wasn't promised during the election campaign and is not the sort of policy that people who voted Labour expected to see. This and the Winter Fuel Payments won't be easily forgotten by people who feel betrayed. I get that there has been lots of good stuff going on which doesn't seem to be mentioned so why are they setting the agenda so badly?

A lot can change in the next 4 years but I really fear for this country and it seems everything the government is doing is simply paving the way for Fartage and Reform 2025 PLC.

 

The comms from this government are the biggest problem in my opinion, they’re all over the place. With a media against you and the public disgruntled this needs sorting. They’re crap at selling the good things they’re doing and end up tangled up in messes they create.

4 years is a very long time and I expect them to turn it around by the next election. The Tories are an absolute mess and the more scrutiny that is put on Reform the more they will collapse. The Lib Dems could be dark horses going forward.

 

They need an Alastair Campbell-type figure (but not Alastair Campbell himself).

 

I'm proud of my MP, Marie Tidball.

 

I prefer Mythr Tydfil.

 

Didn't her Dad teach at Barnsley College? I think he was a SY County Councillor?

 

No idea, mate. But after the Labour Party traitor Angela Smith, then the Far-Right nutter Miriam Cates. It's good to have an MP with the courage to stand up and call this bill for what it is.

 

I wouldn't have voted for it... I agree with you but there have been some good things going on along side this that have been drowned out by the bad.

 

I'm not sure they are setting the agenda badly I think the agenda was already set last yearandvtye mess they inherited with everything... there's lots of positives but people are constantly outraged now with social media fuelling it.

Without borrowing billions or raising taxes money has to be found somewhere.

I'd sooner put tax up for those with the broadest shoulders but it seems we aren't looking at that.