I don’t think we can say that they’d have won if he’d have played more to the left. The electoral system is what it is - you need to appeal to a broad range of people across the country to win. Corbyn’s extra votes in the major cities wouldn’t have won him the election. Not saying the system is the right one, but Labour played to those rules in order to win.
Inevitable really given the lurch to the right of Labour and their targeting of their base to protect the interested of the few. for my part it makes more sense for them to defect to The Greens who already have organisation and an ability to fight every seat. I think Corbyn’s race is well run myself and he shouldn’t be involved in the leadership of it. I’m a happy green voter but if I lived in a constituency where a vote for this new party kept the Tory/Lab coalition out I’d go for it.
Made me laugh this week a govt minister saying they won’t nationalise water they will do what the public wants on the same day that a poll found 80% of people of all political hues. want it nationalised. Starmer is allowing Farage to outflank him from the left as well as the right displaying a woeful inexperience against a shrewd political campaigner.
They need exposure and money , if Unite come in behind them it could get interesting, Scargills party had neither unfortunately
The water companies have a mountain of debt, 10s of billions, so that’d be a huge expense at a time where we’re skint. Some talk that we’d be able to take it off of the water companies because of their failure, but then what happens to the debt? Obviously water should be nationalised, but right now it’s not as simple as that. Hopefully there’s a way that Thames Water can go but and we can take it back without the debt .
They need a leader who’s white & a lot younger than Corbyn & ideally male. The country will not vote for black or Asian leaders. I like Sultana but I know people won’t vote for her. I think people are slowly realising that a lot of the lies they were fed about Corbyn are lies but ultimately he’s too old to lead a major party going forwards & at that age he doesn’t need the pressure & abuse the media will send his way.
I do. Last time round the country were sick of the Tories. Starmer was a white male leader going up against an Asian Tory leader with Farage taking millions of Tory votes. Starmer could have gone further left or right & still got elected.
That’s not the point. The point was a govt minister saying not nationalising it is what people want which is clearly a lie. As for the rest fine them out of existence / let them fail ban all exec payouts of any kind. You’d have them nationalised in a few months. It really isn’t difficult or especially costly.
Corbyn is a great conviction politician. He's also a terrible party leader and very naive towards the problems of Russia.
More fracturing of the left wing vote. The only people this serves are Corbyn and Sultana who clearly couldn't be arsed playing a bit part roll in an opposition party anymore. The best thing for the country would be to join the Greens or Lib Dems, but they've decided to serve themselves instead.
Why would they join the Lib Dem’s. I can maybe understand the criticism of them not joining the greens but the Lib Dem’s aren’t left wing at all
Naive? He’s been outspoken against Putin since before the millennium when the rest of our political elites were cosying up to him
Only way Labour get another term is with Andy Burnham as leader and when he's not even a current MP, that's pretty unlikely to happen.
Centre-left I would say. But to my earlier point they are a viable option to join as they are left of the current labour offering. Labour in the centre, lib dems centre-left, Greens left. Choose one and join them. Don't further fracture the vote.