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    It is interesting that despite good weather there has been the lowest number of boats crossing the Channel in August since 2019. Also the 3,567 arrivals in August was the lowest since 2021. If you check with the appropriate sources you will find whilst there are fewer boats they are more overcrowded.
    It's not that difficult to do a bit of fact checking even for those with a jaundiced view of matters. You can extrapolate numbers for previous weeks/months from the website below.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...he-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days
     
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    Whilst I'm not going to give my opinion on the flags either way on here, I did think last week whist I was driving down the m18, what if a flag falls from a bridge and goes over a wagon drivers windscreen..
     
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    There is a much better fact check here re Sky's deceitful 'analysis' (which of course originates from the usual left-leaning propagandists that the likes of Sky employ).

    https://www.statsjamie.co.uk/p/why-sky-news-farage-crime-rate-factcheck

    With a nod to Wakey Red, who has already made a similar point.

    I know I know, disingenuous hate, or something.
     
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    #286 RamTam, Sep 1, 2025 at 1:12 PM
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    The data all.this is based on came from a right wing "Think Tank" called The Centre for Migration Control, a mysterious organisation operating out of a particularly notorious address in London called 55 Tufton Street.

    Other think tanks operating out of there include:

    Tax Payers Alliance - a group campaigning for lower taxes through slashing all public spending including the NHS

    The Adam Smith Institute - a Thatcher obsessed lobbyist group targeting the privatisation of the entire public sector.

    Global Warming Policy Foundation - the UKs primary Climate denial group, mostly driving towards massive use of fossil fuels.

    LGB Alliance - a group focussed on removal of all LGBT rights in the UK and in fact laws to outright ban the practice.

    The funding of these associated groups is shrouded I mystery but many of their prominent members have been regularly seen in contact with US billionaire right wing lobbyists such as the Koch Brothers as well as various fundamentalist Christian groups from that side of the Atlantic.

    The model for all these groups is the same. To manipulate cherry picked data to provide the exact kind of charts and tables you shared earlier. At first glance they look official but there is no balance and anything that would take away from their point is excluded. Its a practice called Pseudoscience - you start with a preordained idea and only present evidence that supports your point but make it look official and as damning as possible. Real science starts with a hypothesis but no agenda. It then studies and presents all available data before drawing a conclusion based on everything as to whether the hypothesis was correct or not. Data is also presented in a clear and non deceptive manner and explained thoroughly. Peer review ensures this is the case in published scientific studies.

    This data cannot be trusted in any way shape or form, because it has been gathered and manipulated with a specific outcome in mind by an agency whose sole agenda is to demonize immigrants.
     
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    This isn't true either, stop swallowing everything labour and/or the left wing press tells you.

    https://fullfact.org/immigration/asylum-hotels-labour/

    This isn't a defence of the tories by the way, they're almost as unfit for office as the current shower.
     
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    Simply not true mate, by any standards, London is rated the best capital city to live in Europe and certainly in the top 5 in the world. Ranked 2nd according to this Top 10 Best Capital Cities in the World
     
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    #289 RamTam, Sep 1, 2025 at 1:19 PM
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    That analysis is by the same Reform party member associated with the CMC and 55 Tufton Street, and specifically the article all of this came from. Even so, he ignores most of What Sky News actually said and instead focuses on a single point where the Met police provided data in error and which Sky News openly acknowledged and amended the article regarding.

    You can't be trusted to fact check a political article that YOU personally contributed to, just by posting about it on your personal substack as though it is independent analysis.
     
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    Hey be careful there Ubee lad. :rolleyes:
     
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    Liverpool. And yes, I’ll keep posting stuff like this. Because this is horrendous and needs calling out as such. Naff all to do with anyone’s politics. It’s just horrific racism that cannot be tolerated.

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    Disgusting. Any decent right-thinking person should be appalled by this.
     
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    What I can't comprehend is how anyone can look at that image, not have an issue with it and actually defend the actions of the perpetrators with nonsense like "well people have had enough". Enough of what? Common decency and basic human rights?
     
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    Yeah exactly Basil lad, its disgraceful and it makes you wonder who they are and how they were brought up, etc!. :eek:
    But I also hope people don't think that everybody who does want to fly the flag, during sporting tournaments for example, are also the same.
     
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    They might not, but it certainly makes me not want to fly a flag for any reason in case i get lumped in with these disgusting people.
     
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    #299 Abruzzo Red, Sep 1, 2025 at 4:03 PM
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    Unfortunately I fear it will get worse before it gets better. Another example of how ignorant and now openly racist these idiots are:

     
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    Yeah and that's a shame though isn't, because those scum do indeed spoil it for the genuines. :oops:
     
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