These mass arrests under anti terrorism legislation..

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  1. Tek

    Tekkytyke Well-Known Member

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    All is needed, since the Govt. has doubled down Cooper's folly is a relatively simple amendment to the definition of "support" The 'finest'legal minds and legal advisers to the Govt. seem incapable or unwilling to address the problem of normal people peacefully protesting being arrested.
    So here is an idea. Redefine support in this context...
    Support:
    1 Actively participating in illegal acts of sabotage etc.
    2 Funding above activities defined in (1)
    3 Actively promoting through advertising holding fund raising activities etc. (Simply sitting in a square holding up a placard hardly qualifies and even if it did peaceful protests could be specifically defined as not qualifying as "promoting a terrorist organisation nor does it qualify being a member of said organisation.

    However odious many view Farage's ethics, politics and notices he is right about the unprecedented attack on free speech and the right to peaceful protest in the UK that Cooper and the govt unleashed on the British public.
    Viewed from afar (Italy) the stench of injustice doesn't dissipate.
    Cooper claimed 'people don't know the true nature of the organisation. Well then, why not tell us and at the same time tell us the true nature of the Govt (the party for the people?!) We are still in the dark on that one too.
     
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    His company reform ltd has literally banned journalists because they used free speech to say things he didn't like
     
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    Only for causes he agrees with...
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    No, no he isn't.

    He has specifically supported prosecutions for supporting Palestine Action. He does NOT believe in free speech when it relates to views that oppose his own.
     
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    Didn't farage vote to proscribe Palestine action?
     
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    The mass arrests of Palestine Action supporters are a shocking waste of money, time, and resources. People have been picked up for nothing more than holding bits of card in public, among them pensioners, vicars, war veterans, blind protesters, and even relatives of Holocaust survivors. Treating these peaceful shows of solidarity as criminal just shows how over the top and political this whole crackdown really is.

    The banning of PA isn’t just about silencing protest or clamping down on free speech. It is the result of lobbying by pro-Israel groups, pushed through by politicians with ties to Labour Friends of Israel. What’s really being protected here isn’t public order but Elbit Systems, an arms company with factories in the UK that directly supply the Israeli military.

    Elbit’s weapons aren’t abstract - they’re being used right now by the IAF in Gaza. Drones, targeting systems, and ammunition made in Britain are tried out on Palestinian civilians, including women and children, before being sold on to allies like the MoD. By criminalising people who try to disrupt that supply chain, the government has chosen to stand with a war industry that profits from devastation and then markets its products as “combat proven.”

    It’s f***** grotesque.

    And Farage would no doubt go even further. So I’ve no idea why you’re referencing him. Reform refused to allow certain journalists into their conference last week, and have banned the flying of flags they disagree with in councils they run. They’re a cheap imitation of the morons across the pond and only yesterday had one pillock on the stage linking Covid vaccines to cancer and the silly racist woman who was locked up for hate speech online.
     
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    If its deemed illegal then why would you want to go, obviously its either because your a total plantpot, or your looking for the aggro, simple no brainer, an if its the aggro then again WHY.
     
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    Its a difficult one really, on the one hand it's a total waste of money and suppression of free speech and on the other hand once they made it illegal they have to follow through or where do you draw the line?
    Not that I've got a problem with them nicking the professional agitators, but the ones just sitting there with a flag or placard, come on!
     
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    YT Well-Known Member

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    I think it’s because they oppose genocide.
     
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    OK my fault for referencing Farage. Still, I am disappointed most replies homed in on that rather than the main point of my post. The obscenity of the contrast between peaceful protesters in the UK being labelled terrorists and the absolute silence and inaction regarding ongoing genoside in Gaza was my focus.
     
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    Obviously, we all do, but opposing genocide does'nt give you the right to attend an illegal meeting, ILLEGAL,[ forbidden by law ]
     
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    YT Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes, the law is an ass.


    The Boston Tea Party in 1773 saw colonists illegally destroy tea, sparking American independence.

    Women’s suffrage protests in the late 1800s and early 1900s involved illegal demonstrations and hunger strikes, eventually winning voting rights.

    The Salt March in 1930 had Gandhi defying British salt laws, boosting India’s independence movement.

    Civil Rights sit-ins in the 1960s broke segregation laws, leading to the Civil Rights Act.

    Anti-apartheid protests in South Africa involved banned resistance, ultimately ending apartheid.

    The Stonewall uprising in 1969 was illegal ‘queer’ resistance that launched the LGBTQ+ rights movement.

    Anti-colonial protests across Africa and Asia in the 20th century were criminalised uprisings that achieved independence.

    The Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 defied bans on democracy demonstrations, becoming an enduring symbol of resistance.
     
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    YT Well-Known Member

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    You’re right. Only government approved protests should be allowed.
     
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    The law is an ass.
     
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    I must say it's great to see some of the older, and often much maligned generation of people prepared to have a criminal record to stand up for Palestinian people. The government will back down on this. The police are just embarrassed by this, and rightly so.

    Cooper has a history of getting the big calls wrong (see Iraq) and she's wrong again. Awful woman along with her dumb husband.
     
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    Meanwhile, the President of Israel will get the red carpet treatment next week when he visits the UK. This is a bloke who implied that ALL Palestinians were responsible for the actions of Hamas.
     
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    It should have brought his Prime Minster with him. Chicken.
     
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    Now that is worth protesting an i might even make it a few day break in London.
     
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    Thats pretty much verbatim what the left were actually saying during Covid, and which sentiment empowered this digraceful legislation.
     

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