11 terror suspects from Pakistan on student visas.

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Why do we educate foreign students? Is it just a financial thing?And what arethe long term consequences on our economy of technologically enabling countries that allowsweatshop and childlabour?</p>

 

Innocent utill... and all of that Don.

However, should it be proved then they'll need to look into who gets a student visa here for sure.

 

I honestly don't think there is enough available bandwidth on this site to answer that one.</p>

For my own part, I'll just say we have, as a nation, become the biggest fools on earth. We've gradually allowed the PC lobby and the rest of them to slowly tie us up in pink ribbon before finishing us off completely.</p>

We've even bowed to Europe today, and are going to allow prisoners to have the vote. I mean, robbers, muggers and thieves do have rights you know, we musn't forget that. Good old Europe eh?</p>

 

Met a family on hols 5 years ago - great family, hubby and wife were cops, he was quite high up in the Met. He was dealing with major drugs problems and he said the biggest single problem they faced was drug dealers / yardies from Jamaica masquearding as students. They'd come over here, register at college then continue to ply their trade. We'd deport them, then cos of the stupid Stupid Visa laws we'd take 'em straight back.</p>

It used to really get his back up, that.</p>

 

I don't know, why don't you tell us! nt

 

PC lobby = student visas?! nt

 

Basically, this country is run by pricks.</p>

The PC brigade are as dangerous as extremeists if not kept in check.
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I think you see different words to everyone else. nt

 

If you want an argument start one.

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That was just ****.</p>

 

Book for you Windy

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Retreat-Reason-Political-Correctness-Corruption/dp/1903386500

Quite well-argued without being ranty, I enjoyed it.

Next election should be rid of a few soft heads at the top.

 

I'll have a go at that, cheers. nt

 

Seriously.

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Is there an official explanationas to why weeducate people who will then take their skills back to economies in competition with ours?</p>

 

12 Bombers Bombing

A modern day 12 days of crimbo

And a head of anti terror with egg on his face in a pear tree

 

Why should we not educate foreign students? It's a commercial arrangement.

And to suddenly come out with the question in the context of a terrorism operation smells of a knee jerk reaction.

No doubt if our own Islamic footballer Mounir El Haimour had been paid a visit then you'd be saying "why do we allow these foreign fooballers in?"

Do you object to our own students studying abroad?

Or if your point is that these foreigners employ slave labour, then is the best way of alleviating this to deny all of them a decent education?

There are plenty in China being exploited at present. Watch that nation, it will dominate the world, in our lifetime (prediction, along with us going down).

 

Why should we not educate foreign students? It's a commercial arrangement. That's what I'm asking. And if the answer is only that it's a commercial arrangement then do you have an answer to my other question? What are the long term consequences of sharing our education system, technological know-how etcwith our competitors? (Just noticed. Bizarrelyyou answer that in your last point. lol!)

And to suddenly come out with the question in the context of a terrorism operation smells of a knee jerk reaction. There are two questions there. Maybe I should have made the distinction clearer.

No doubt if our own Islamic footballer Mounir El Haimour had been paid a visit then you'd be saying &quot;why do we allow these foreign fooballers in?&quot; I won't dignify that one with a response.</p>

Do you object to our own students studying abroad? Why would I do that?

Or if your point is that these foreigners employ slave labour, then is the best way of alleviating this to deny all of them a decent education? Do you think we're educating those who would otherwise be labouring for next to nothing or those who will go home and open even more factories?

There are plenty in China being exploited at present. Watch that nation, it will dominate the world, in our lifetime (prediction, along with us going down). Yes, and that's just what we want isn't it?</p>

 

most people don't give a ****

and there lies the problem

 

purely financial

helps build ties with ex-students in their businesses (after all big business don't really care about sweat shops, just us)

same reason we train foreign soldiers at sandhurst - money and future ties

 

Finally...

you and Harrow post sensible replies. I was reading through this thread thinking people had gone nuts. Political correctness? What the chuff has that got to do with anything? As usual, there's no conspiracy, no devine intentions, no snake in the grass and no monkeys in the suitcase... just money, money and er, money.

On my post-grad engineering course there were just the two of us that were English, the other couple of dozen students were foreigners (Europeans, Chinese, North Korean(!) Mexican, Congolese). Why were they there? As you say, because they pay well and they'll be invaluable alumni (Cranfield University has a considerable turnover from R&D with companies). Universities are international commercial enterprises (rightly or wrongly) who want to make money. Are they correct on a moral ground? Is it a bad thing to be educating foreign students to our way of thinking? Should we close our doors to the many because of the few extremist idiots? Would we want the overseas door to be closed to us in this age of global opportunity? I like answering things with questions. It's easy.

It just goes to show you can't be too careful...

 

You didn't ask or answer the question....

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...what are the long-term consequences of enabling our competitors who go on to use slave labour to undercut our industries into non-existance?</p>

As far as closing our doors to keep out the extremists I'd say yes to targeting certain groups but we've already slipped back into our pre-7/7 slumber. &quot;What muslim threat?&quot;</p>