1680 possible different outcomes for the 6th round draw

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  1. pau

    paul.d Well-Known Member

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    :)
     
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    barnsleyone Well-Known Member

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    Can you go through them all please ?</p>

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    paul.d Well-Known Member

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    no nt
     
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    ...but only 7 that matter (14 if you include venue) nt nt
     
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    There are only 14 possible outcomes for Barnsley

    ... any of the 7 other teams home or away. The order in which teams are drawn out of the hat is Roger Irrelevant.
     
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    paul.d Well-Known Member

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    absolutely correct............

    I was referring to all possible outcomes-so the chance of any one particular guess being correct is 1 in 1680
     
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    AIRTyke New Member

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    RE: absolutely correct............

    Matters not. Sheff Utd/Middlesbrough away. GUTTED
     
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    Surely its 1 in 56

    If you ignore the order of the games
     
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    Its 56 nt
     
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    paul.d Well-Known Member

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    no nt
     
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    RE: no nt

    we have 14 possible games. the next team, lets say Man Utd has 14 possible but we have already counted 2 with ours so its 12 etc etc etc

    14 + 12 + 10 + 8 + 6 + 4 + 2 + 0 = 56
     
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    paul.d Well-Known Member

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    I am talking about possibilities for the whole draw-are you? nt
     
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    No I am talking number of different possible individual game scenarios

    i am not bothered if we are the 1st or the last game

    you are correct on complete draw permutations
     
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    Jay Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to probability for the mathematically challenged nt
     
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    paul.d Well-Known Member

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    neither am I

    there are 8! ways of the teams coming out of the hat one after the other-of those 8! the4 games can occur in 4! ways -as you say the order of the actual games is irrelevant-so the total possible is 8!/4! = 1680 :)
     
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  16. Gue

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    RE: no nt

    booooooooooh

    :D
     
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    Always here to help the others

    I assume you arent reffering to me as I have anA at a level in the stuff and a nice degree and career based on it :)
     
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    And you call ME insane! nt
     
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    Jay Well-Known Member

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    If that's the best explanation a maths teacher can offer

    There's no wonder I'm no good at it. You're ******* mental.
     
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    Isle of Wight Tyke Active Member

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    Are you using an exclaimation mark on purpose or just trying to type numbers loudly?

    I lost the will to learn.
     
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