50 deaths in Barnsley from CO-19

More than half in care homes. In 2 months ish of tracking it. 50.

Success of lockdown or just massive over reaction ? Could we have had a different policy from London and other large cities maybe? Just putting it out there.

 

It says 96 deaths in Barnsley up to 24th April on BBC website

 

Apologies lets say 100 then. Point still stands.

 

How many would it be without the measures currently in place?

What the measures have done is bought us some time, given the NHS time to prepare and build extra capacity.

 

How much extra capacity has been built? Excluding the nightingale hospitals which we cannot staff

 

Loads
The ward my daughter worked on was closed a couple of days after she went on Mat leave as part of the whole of DRI changing to prepare.

just remembered after typing it’s pointless because you have me on ignore due to me constantly putting you right when you post rubbish like this

 

He asked a question didn`t he.

 

Spot on, what most don't see is the changes that have been made inside hospitals to deal with Covid, like you say wards have been closed completely so staff can be utilised in more needed area's, I know from my recent hospital stay that a number of wards within the Royal Hallamshire have been closed plus support departments, ie the pre op has been closed and all patients transferred to the Northern General. A slight down side to this is that nurses are working on wards they aren't used to and with patients they wouldn't normally deal with but believe me they are coping and getting on admirably, they not be classed as frontline (ie. Dealing directly with Covid) but they are sure as dam it covering those that are

 

Wow

 

If someone came up to you, handed you a gun, and said they could magically make coronavirus disappear and we could all go back to normal if YOU go out and randomly shoot 100 people would you do it?

 

Another stat. The other day 332 aged under 45 had passed away due to Covid. Looking at this table we have over 32 million in the UK aged 45 and under.......

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures...n-by-ethnicity/demographics/age-groups/latest

Which means in that age group 0.0010375 of the population have passed away. I don't know how many of the 332 had underlying health conditions or Covid was put on the death certificate as an assumption because autopsies can't be done, so the percentage will be even smaller than what I said.

Protect those with bad health and the elderly.

 

I'd point the gun at them and say use your magic to make it go away or I'll shoot you.

 

That's not much consolation if one of the 332 is your friend, brother, wife etc. I'm under 45 but I still don't fancy risking it. Unless of course the very odd bout of "flu" I had in January about a week after passing through Gatwick Airport was Covid-19, in which case I'm probably safe for now.

 

We have plenty of staff at the minute, more available than I've ever known. A lot of this is down to the fact that not many are taking any pre-booked annual leave (by choice, including me: can't go anywhere so little point). We also have people who have retired returning including one consultant who must be 80. Also have student nurses in their final year getting paid instead to help us out.

 

We don't fully understand the long-term implications of catching the disease and surviving it though. You may have impaired lung function for the rest of your life which will put pressure on your other organs, heart and liver and you'll end up needing the NHS again sooner than you thought. I know we are football fans and like to look at league tables - not usually death league tables admittedly - but you have to look at it holistically.

 

They would in America!

 

Or 4x as many

truth is you don’t know, but you’ll assume something you can’t defend as it supports your entrenched view.

 

Genuine question but how would you rate the staffing levels you've got now? I know you said plenty but I assume that's as you followed up with compared to usual. In the long run covid-19 aside are the staffing levels now what you'd like to see generally? Still less than ideal? Or more than is really needed? As I say that's ignoring the covid-19 issue

 

This is no way undermines the impact on those who have been personally affected, but this is a thought provoking article:

"Our constant focus on the most negative impacts of the epidemic means we have "lost sight" of the fact the virus causes a mild to moderate illness for many, says Dr Amitava Banerjee, of University College London.

The expert in clinical data science believes it is important not to jump to conclusions about the deaths of younger, seemingly healthy adults. Some could have had health conditions that had not been diagnosed, he says.

But he admits there will be otherwise healthy people who have died - as happens with everything from heart attacks to flu.

In future, we need to stop looking at coronavirus through such a "narrow lens", he says. Instead we should take more account of the indirect costs, such as rising rates of domestic violence in lockdown, mental health problems and the lack of access to health care more generally"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52543692

 

There is no way tfe government would have placed us in lockdown if there was no reason. Plus, not everyone with mental health issues feels the same about it, for some lockdown actually helps them.