A lot can change in a season

Wednesday went down

They wernt happy with the Board

Threatened to boycott games

Year on they have just sold out tickets for their final home game against Pompey (34,000)

And this is the reason I don’t get too concerned when we get relegated . Hurts at the time and you think there is no way back and majority of the time in Barnsley’s case we end up back up the following season

Roll on forest green and Exeter away

 

The club have plenty of time. Could go one way or another at the moment.

Time to smell the coffee & put right what went very badly wrong this season.

I like your loyalty, but it needs to be backed up with an actual plan. What is ours?

 

It's easy just to look at it like that and say everything will be ok. Last time we went down we had a solid core group of players and were rightly one of the favourites for promotion.Wednesday also kept a fair few of their squad together after relegation last season as did Rotherham and they were expected to be up there challenging this season.

Let's look at the present, have you seen our financial position? We're going to lose between £6-£7m income, we have no money in the bank, we have some **** players on long contracts (yes there will be wage reductions due to relegation) but I see nothing but a disaster next season. We need to sell just to try and cover some of the losses. There will be no money for new transfers, Conway and Chien's backers haven't put any of their own money into the club and they aren't going to start doing that now. Investor's want a return on any outlay and they aren't going to get that with BFC. Wouldn't surprise me if they are looking at an exit strategy before the finances really take a hit.

 

Just doesn’t feel the same this time. We had money in the bank and the nucleus of a good L1 team before.
We got neither this time. Add in the worst fan/owner relationship anyone can remember and it doesn’t paint a pretty picture.
We’ve got another season of struggle ahead I reckon. Would love to be proved wrong, hopefully under new ownership, that’s what we need the most.

 

They've still got a **** stadium which the club doesn’t own, rubbish training facilities and are massively in debt with an owner that blames them for all the clubs ills. Happy days!

 

as Massive as they are though, they weren’t obsessed with collecting football clubs then doing fk all with them!

 

I think a season spent not hanging round the bottom 4 will be a success. Think we will have too much strength to get relegated but this has more of the Post admin still dropping feel to it rather than we employed crazy Jose and should never have been relegated.

 

I think the main issue is the Stadium and ownership. It's not just a case of selling to better owners. There's nothing to be had from just owning the football side of the business. You can only take the club forward if you own the ground, the land and the club. Until we have that it will be rinse and repeat. I'd be astonished if anyone bought us under the current set up. There's just no point. That's the issue at the minute PMG and NCC.

We really are fc uked but it isn't all just down to these owners. Yes separating the assets of the club safeguarded it to some extent but in doing so could be the thing that causes it's further demise and ultimate extinction.

If I was a billionaire. I'd buy the club and move it away from Oakwell to get out of the 5hit show and circus.

 

Agree with you, the ground ownership is what's ultimately holding us back. Not sure however, that I'd have wanted Conway and co getting their grubby hands on the land.
Unlikely that any potential new owner would want to buy the club and it's debts and also build a new stadium.
It would take some serious investment for a football club with limited potential.

 

In fairness Wednesday brought 14 players in last summer which was a big turn around for virtually a small outlay , the key is obviously good recruitment , they have a manager who knows the division & knew what he wanted ,so I do not buy this theory that keeping players is the key to success , we could do well to follow that method & bring in a proven coach from division one & let him form his squad, unfortunately we all know that the amatures who are ruining our club will not go down that path.

 

What's the evidence that Conway and his friends invest anything in the clubs they own? How will owning the ground change that disposition? I have to say I'm very pessimistic about next season. This is a very weak squad of players. And the fan- owner relationship is pretty much non-existent. You can only judge people by their actions and on that score PMG get very low marks. Hope Saturday's peaceful demonstration goes well.

 

Wednesday will be paying wages far in excess of what we'll be offering though. They've probably got around 15k season ticket holders compared to our potential 5k, all paying more as well.
Their budget will likely be the highest in L1.

 

It's a double edged sword for Barnsley supporters at the minute. Yes we hate what the owners are doing to the club but the only way to get out of League 1 is by continuing to buy season tickets.

 

My point exactly. I fear the club will just drop further without the fans backing.
Fully understand the reasons for folk not renewing but not sure it'll ultimately achieve what everyone wants, i.e. Conway and co getting rid of us.

 

What annoys me most:

When Cryne was in charge he told the fans it wasn't a bottomless pit and if the fans wanted 20,000 players they needed to come in the turnstiles. Khaled has said the same thing yet he's castigated.

I think the parallel's between the two sets of owners are uncanny. It's just before we accepted a lot more because Patrick Cryne was "one of our own".

 

The £750k PMG/NCC have taken out of club funds to buy the club is ultimately what's caused all the ill feeling.
Supposed billionaires effectively using ST money raised during Covid for their own ends.
Can see why it's driving a wedge between fans and owners. That and the continued silence.

 

Oddly I see that differently. They own the club once you've paid your money it's theirs. I don't like it anymore than anyone else ethically it's skulduggery but in business it isn't.

 

Get your point to an extent. Another factor in the poor relationship is the insistence on sticking to their 'plan'.
Inexperienced foreign coaches, poor player recruitment, no apparent interest in on the field success, just player development for profit, all these add to the discontent.
A mess that they so far don't appear willing to admit responsibility for or admit they were wrong and change direction.

 

Totally agree. I think it's worth reading the Devaney interview in the Chronicle on the other thread. I reckon that's the direction the clubs taking now.

 

Last year they got deducted points & ended up relegated through paying out too much , I am sure they will be conscious of that, but I was merely pointing out that they did have a mass clear out of players when it had been suggested that they had more or less stuck by the players who were relegated & I might be wrong but I do not think they have paid any fees for their recruits but I might add I still want them to end up in the Conference