A quote from Simon Davey

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  1. Jay

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    "I know people have made a point about the number of goals we have conceded from set plays this season but if you watch the Championship, you will see that 75 to 80 per cent of all goals in all divisions come from corners or free kicks. I would be more concerned if we were being ripped about from open play".

    75-80%? That sounds high. Is that right or has he just made it up?
     
  2. Terry Nutkins

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    90% of all statistics are made up nt
     
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    1% of people knew that there would be a reply like that nt
     
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    just looked randomly-ish at five Prem games from the weekend

    7 goals 5 set pieces 2 open play
     
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    Looking at the "higlights" on Virgin media 39% are from set pieces

    Goals from set pieces = 11
    Goals from open play = 17

    by my reckoning that is 39%

    May be I picked a bad week but I think Davey might have made up that statistic
    From current championship games availlable
    I omitted the 2 goals virgin missed from the WBA game
    and counted the pen as open play as it was gained in open play and the guy would probably have scored had he not been brought down - no red card though
     
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    in our games up to Ipswich..........

    there were 47 goals 22 from set pieces
     
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    thats 46 % but

    How do goals split out for and against?
     
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    According to each team's own official match reports on their websites, 23 goals were scored from open play (not including penalty) and 10 were from set pieces which is 70% open play, 30% set pieces.
     
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    RE: thats 46 % but

    For open play 10 set piece 13</p>

    against open play 15 set piece 9</p>
     
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    updated to Sheff U game-7 of the last 8 goals conceded are set pieces

    <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="993" border="0"><tbody><tr style="height: 21px"><td style="width: 92px; height: 21px"></td><td style="width: 418px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">scored</font></td><td style="width: 483px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">conceded</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Coventry</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3">penalty</font></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><font color="#ff0000">free kick, corner</font><font size="+0">, open play from goal kick,open play from roll out by goalie</font></font></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Colchester</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3">penalty, penalty</font></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">open play from left wing cross,<font color="#ff0000"> corner</font></font></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Plymouth</font></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">open play from free kick in our half,<font color="#ff0000">free kick</font><font size="+0">,open play</font></font></font></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><font color="#ff0000">free kick</font><font size="+0">, open play from left wing</font></font></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">WBA</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">open play down middle,open play beating offside trap</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Scnuthorpe</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">og ricochet,open play goal down the middle</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Stoke</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Southampton</font></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><font color="#ff0000">free kick,free kick</font><font size="+0">,open play from right wing</font></font></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">open play in box,open play from left wing</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Cardiff</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">open play from right wing</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">open play from right wing</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Bristol C</font></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">open play down middle,<font color="#ff0000">parry from free kick</font><font size="+0">,open play crossfield</font></font></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Charlton</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">open play left wing cross</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">open play right wing cross</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Burnley</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3">corner</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">right wing cross deflected in</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Hull</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">open play down middle, open play in box,open play down middle</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Leicester</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3">free kick,corner</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Preston</font></td><td><font color="#ff0000"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">free kick</font></font></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Blackpool</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3">penalty, free kick</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3">corner</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Wolves</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3">corner</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Watford</font></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><font color="#ff0000">free kick, </font><font size="+0">open play down right, </font><font color="#ff0000">fumble from free kick</font></font></font></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><font color="#ff0000">free kick, </font><font size="+0">open play down right</font></font></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Sheff W</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3">free kick</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Ipswich</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3"></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Wolves</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3">open play cross from right headed back by defender</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3"></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Palace</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3"></font></td></tr><tr style="height: 21px"><td style="height: 21px"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Sheff U</font></td><td><font face="Calibri" size="3"></font></td><td><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3">free kick</font></td></tr><tr style="height: 21px"><td style="height: 21px"><font face="Calibri" color="#ff0000" size="3" /></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">open play 10 , <font color="#ff0000">set pieces 13</font><font size="+0">, og 1</font></font></font></td><td><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><font size="+0">open play 15</font><font color="#ff0000">, set pieces 11</font></font></font></td></tr></tbody></table>
     
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    Hmmm

    Mind you I am more concerned by our lack of scoring than letting in 6 goals in our last 9 games I Think Davey is probably right to think its not a major problem
     
  13. Gue

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    Only 10 goals from open play in 22 games?

    As i have said earlier in the season, we seem incapable of putting decent attacking moves together. That is the key reason i am not a Davey fan. We dont create and put away many chances. This is the area Davey should be working on. The problem of not being able to defend against set pieces has been a problem for us for many seasons i reckon.
    Sadly i think that is the way football is going though. There does seem to be more play from set pieces than ever now. Not as entertaining as seeing a team rip the oppoistion apart from end to end.
     
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    Did you go to the Wolves game?

    We ripped them apart. They looked shocking. I can see McCarthy getting the bullet in the New Year. I'll drink to that.
     
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    RE: Only 10 goals from open play in 22 games?

    The reason for that being so many teams break up play by fouling in the middle of the field in order to get players back, seen it loads of times against us, a cynical ploy but a reason why you get so many set piece goals.
     

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