The problem is between Rotherham and Robins with regard to how the situation has been handled and there could be an issue of constructive dismissal.....IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BFC who have agreed terms with both Rotherham and Robins.....also Radio Sheff say that the backroom staff are in place and are just waiting for Robins to join them Sorry if already posted but cant be bothered reading all the negative whinging drivel
If only BFC could just come out and say that... in any case, why does he need to worry about that now, get on wi job lad?
I don't understand. Tony Stewart?? Allowed Robins permission to come for talks to Barnsley and surely he would have thought in the back of his mind that he'd be off. So what's the problem with how the situation's been handled? Unbelievable, i came out and said Stewart had handled himself well in the procedure only yesterday (doh). Eat your words Scott, eat your f.cking words.
I think it's the gardening leave Robins will be basically be saying that he was pushed out due to being place on gardening leave and that even if he'd rejected us he wouldn't have been able to return to work. Or summat.
Is it the term Gardening Leave that is the problem This term is used when someone has been given notice... Perhaps Rotherham gave them notice when they shouldnt have done </p> </p> GARDEN LEAVE “Garden leave” is the term given to a situation whereby an employee is required to serve out a period of notice at home (or “in the garden&rdquo. During this period the employee continues to receive all salary and benefits but is prohibited from commencing employment with new employers until the gardening leave period has expired. It is a practice which employers often adopt with employees who have a certain status whereby they have access to confidential information or customers and where they are leaving to join a competitor. During the gardening leave period the employee’s access to such information or customers is either restricted or denied. </p>
If Mark Robins lives in a high rise apartment and he's only got a window box I can see why he'd find the term a problem.
Who would be bothered about constructive dismissal?? It would only be the 'dismissed' party, which is this case is Robins, so I can't see this as the issue. I would have thought that it would be more likely to be an issue of the compensation due, probably for Breckin, Taylor and Daws, rather than Robins, as Robins' compensation seems to have be already written into his contract. I bet the backroom staff did not have the same deal and this would seem to be to be more likely the sticking point. You can't blame Rotherham for trying to press for the best settlement possible, but they had better move quickly before Ronnie Moore gets another job offered him!!
I must say - very odd to put them on gardening leave!!! Smacks of a bit of an over-reaction. It is also quite true - once they had all been placed on garden leave, how could any of them have returned to Rotherham. I think someone amongst the hierarchy at Rotherham has thrown several toys out of the pram, along with the staff!!!!
I can see their point of view If the manager's off having talks about a new job he's hardly going to be set right to sort their team out - and it looks to have worked cos they won.</p> Likewise when we asked to speak to the rest and Rotherham said okay, they didn't know how long talks would take so it seems fair to me to do the same thing again - the disappointing thing is nobody on either side seems to be aware how much all this will cost, and with us arranging a press conference it all now looks a bit dis-jointed when it looked to be progressing all correctly. </p>
RE: I can see their point of view Whatever reason, and whoevers fault. It makes both us and Rotherham look bad.
RE: I can see their point of view Regardless of him being a football manager, is it right that he is effectively sacked for looking for employment elsewhere? I am often looking for employment and have been for a few interviews with other companies, while in employment already. Better paid jobs than I was in so always going to be interested. Should it be different for football? They come under the same employment laws as everyone else in the country. Wouldn't a constructive dismissal mean we don't have to pay compensation for Robins? Actually, shouldn't them giving him notice (garden leave) mean no compensation. Or maybe just the notice period?
RE: I must say - very odd to put them on gardening leave!!! Could be that Rotherham feared that he would take all the backroom staff and didn't want him talking to them, very difficult I know but if they could prove he had then RUFC could probably cite breach of contract and sue.
Gardening Leave - Depends on the terms, it has to be agreed by both parties But you should be available for work if required. So cant go off getting another job. I stretched mine out for an entire Ashes test series while being paid Eventually agreed on compensation / bonus package. Everybody happy!
