All joking apart ,lets get behind L J, hes trying to do things for the best

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  1. red

    red24/7 Well-Known Member

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    everything in life you want to achieve doesn't happen overnight, body building, dieting , studying, saving, trying to change years of negative behaviour, like smoking or drinking,to name but a few ,its so easy to give up and just go back to whats easy ,I want everyone to sit back and wait for the results to start showing ,

    one of the most successful managers in the world thinks the same way as L J


    "The process has to end with a team, a philosophy, an identity, a style of play. If we win a match but not in the style we're trying to build, it's three points, one step up the table, but one step back in the direction of our work. " Jose Mourinho


    So heres hoping in the not too distant future all of L J's philosophy comes true and we are marching up the league

    HAPPY CLAPPERS FOREVER
     
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    Helps if you can see any kind of progress. I cant. Infact I can only see us having gone backwards.

    Doesnt help that he's the most negative manager thats ever lived.


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    I don't think he is the most negative. I think he's as negative as Wilson was, as Mellon, flitcroft and hil were and as Davey was. The worrying thing is that in all that time there have only been two constants at Oakwell and both are still there
     
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    'thereev' Banned Idiot

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    so far its ****...end of...FACT

    hth
     
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    we have a track record of sacking managers everytime we start slipping,the negativity we have witnessed for years is born out of the fear of losing,to us lot on the terraces its w@nk,to the managers its their jobs on the line, i struggle to see any other explanation.Cryne must be like an ogre,they're all **** scared of him.

    we need a manager with some ******
     
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    What if a team keeps winning 'but not in the style we're trying to build'? What then Jose?

    It's utter ballhocks.
     
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    Wheres Jose ever said that anyway? He doesnt have a particular style, he adapts to the opposition and he's very good at it.

    Also, we have a track record of sacking managers because we have a track record of appointing very poor managers.


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    That's not true though, is it? Flicker, Mellon and Hill all had superb seasons last year. Wilson's track record at 3rd tier level (apart from the play-offs) is very solid. Andy Ritchie should have been given much longer IMHO. I suspect that it's nothing to do with the managers being rubbish, it's far more likely to be a problem with BFC.
     
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    It is the reliance on loanees and short termism in my opinion. A policy that has continued through various managers at the club suggesting it goes above them
     
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    And to top tl we turned down Adkins

    Johnson talks a good game, is charismatic .. but a poor motivator and no ideas of tactical knowledge.
     
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    'thereev' Banned Idiot

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    this is sooooo correct!
     
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    All at clubs where the pressure and expectations are much lower, without trying to sound like a Wednesday fan. Flicker and Mellon were both at clubs spending a far amount in L2. Ritchie deserved longer but his stubborn approach once we got promoted cost him and probably rightly so. We gave time and so much patience to Davey but it was pretty clear from the off he wasnt the right man. Giving time doesnt guarantee anything if its not given to the right person, something I strongly suspect Johnson is not.


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    This is sooooo True
     
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    You're probably right there mate. But constantly sacking managers - well we know exactly what that guarantees.
     
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    I think he is very similar to Wilson from what I've seen from last season to this. both very negative but some on this board who were prepared to give Wilson all the time in the world are now on Lee jays back. People moaning saying we rely on set pieces, under Wilson we won 3 away games in the league 2 of them were 1-0 wins by set pieces (Sheffield United and oldham) we also won at Crewe away but can't remember how we scored as I didn't go. I can't see much of a difference the football is similar to Wilson from what I've seen. Only difference if a Wilson side played Everton it would have been more defencive. We have no choice but to give it time and hope he changes his negitivity because it's getting us no where fast
     
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    Life is what you make of it, does LJ want to stay in the slow lane or live in the fast lane? I know which I always chose
     
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    Some posts on here saying the club adopts too much short termism, others saying LJ is a poor manager

    Will fans give Johnson time? I can't see it happening from quite a lot of fans

    But every year we end up in the same position of sacking and reappointing managers, which has led us to where we are.

    So I would say we must give Johnson time because getting rid of him may improve us in the short term, not the long term

    That's not to say right now, but if hypothetically we were in a similar position to last year around Christmas
     
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    Think both goals at crewe come from set pieces but Oldham away was under LJ. We did draw with them in the JPT thought didnt we?


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    HIS TIME IS RUNNING OUT......been here long enough for the shoots of recovery to start showing by now....I mean, what fooking else do they have to do all week, every week?

    Shoots of recovery?....having a tin bath.....if this carries on, LeeJays only hope will be if somebody offers him some magic beans in a swap for Connor Wilkinson.

    hth
     
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    You do have a point
     

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